[access-uk] Re: Braille displays and web forms.

  • From: "George Bell" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:50:43 +0100

Hi Tink,

If you look up "Forms" in JAWS 6.2 Help, there is a Topic
called, "Creating Accessible Forms in Word".

Also, suggest looking at the Forms section of, "Command
Descriptions for Word".

George.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tink Watson
> Sent: 18 August 2005 09:21
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille displays and web forms.
> 
> George,
> 
>       Thanks, this is all useful information. Do you
happen 
> to know what a Braille display would show if the edit
fields 
> were not populated to begin with?
> 
> Tink. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of George Bell
> Sent: 17 August 2005 18:09
> To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille displays and web forms.
> 
> Hi Tink,
> 
> In Word 2003, when you tab to a populated form field, the 
> text is automatically highlighted.  Unless you hit a 
> navigation key like an arrow, end or home first, the text 
> will be cleared.
> 
> You can also "Reset" the form to clear all fields if you
wish.
> 
> Oddly enough, only today I sorted out a form for someone, 
> hence it's fresh in mind.
> 
> George.  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tink
Watson
> > Sent: 17 August 2005 17:28
> > To: Access UK; Jaws UK; Window Eyes;
> bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [access-uk] Braille displays and web forms.
> > 
> > Good afternoon,
> > 
> >     Apologies for the cross post. Hoping some
> refreshable 
> > Braille display users can help with the following...
> > 
> > 
> >     If a form on a web page contains an edit box, and
> the 
> > edit box doesn't have any place holding text already in
> it, 
> > can a person using only Braille with their screen reader

> detect that 
> > the edit box is present?
> > 
> >     It's been suggested that unless some text is already
> 
> > given in the box, perhaps, "Enter your name here", then
> the 
> > box isn't detectable.
> > 
> >     The second part of my enquiry, if the above
> suggestion 
> > holds true, is whether a space entered into the box
would make any 
> > difference to the detection of the edit box.
> > 
> >     To give all this some context, we're trying to find
> a 
> > solution that works for audio and Braille feedback
screen reader 
> > users. All too often, when information is entered
> into 
> > an edit box that already contains some text, the two get

> combined and 
> > you end up with something like, "Enter your
> name 
> > here John Smith".
> > 
> >     There are JavaScript solutions that automatically
delete the
> existing 
> > text from the box, when the user tabs
> to 
> > it, but if you are one of the estimated 10% of Internet
> users 
> > without JavaScript, this doesn't help.
> > 
> >     The next idea was to do away with using any place 
> holding text in an
> 
> > edit box all together, which is when
> the 
> > possibility of Braille users not being able to identify
> edit 
> > boxes was brought up.
> > 
> > 
> >     Hope you'll be able to help, these solutions are 
> usually all the 
> > better for actually talking to the people using these
technologies.
> > *Smile.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > Tink.
> > --
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> >  
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