[access-uk] Re: Braille displays and web forms.

Hi Tink,

On a braille display the letters 'ed' (for edit) show up at the beginning of a newline with an edit field on it, when using jaws. Seeing ED is your clue to then hit enter to enter that form field.

For exactly the reasons you've suggested, I'd steer clear of having placeholder/hint text in the edit field.

Hope that helps.





----- Original Message ----- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Braille displays and web forms.



Good afternoon,

Apologies for the cross post. Hoping some refreshable Braille
display users can help with the following...


If a form on a web page contains an edit box, and the edit box doesn't have any place holding text already in it, can a person using only Braille with their screen reader detect that the edit box is present?

It's been suggested that unless some text is already given in the
box, perhaps, "Enter your name here", then the box isn't detectable.

The second part of my enquiry, if the above suggestion holds true,
is whether a space entered into the box would make any difference to the
detection of the edit box.

To give all this some context, we're trying to find a solution that
works for audio and Braille feedback screen reader users. All too often,
when information is entered into an edit box that already contains some
text, the two get combined and you end up with something like, "Enter your
name here John Smith".

There are JavaScript solutions that automatically delete the
existing text from the box, when the user tabs to it, but if you are one of
the estimated 10% of Internet users without JavaScript, this doesn't help.


The next idea was to do away with using any place holding text in an
edit box all together, which is when the possibility of Braille users not
being able to identify edit boxes was brought up.


Hope you'll be able to help, these solutions are usually all the
better for actually talking to the people using these technologies. *Smile.


Thanks,
Tink.
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http://www.tink.co.uk/


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