[access-uk] Re: Braille displays and web forms.
- From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 09:20:43 +0100
Damon,
I'm inclined to agree that place holding characters aren't really
necessary any more. I just wanted to be sure that we new what we were
talking about before we started in on this.
Do you know if Jaws has always behaved like this for form fields, or
whether it's something that's appeared in recent versions?
Tink.
-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Damon
Sent: 17 August 2005 18:30
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Braille displays and web forms.
Hi Tink,
On a braille display the letters 'ed' (for edit) show up at the beginning
of a newline with an edit field on it, when using jaws. Seeing ED is your
clue to then hit enter to enter that form field.
For exactly the reasons you've suggested, I'd steer clear of having
placeholder/hint text in the edit field.
Hope that helps.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: "Access UK" <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Jaws UK"
<jaws-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Window Eyes" <gw-info@xxxxxxxxxxx>;
<bcab-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2005 5:28 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Braille displays and web forms.
> Good afternoon,
>
> Apologies for the cross post. Hoping some refreshable Braille display
> users can help with the following...
>
>
> If a form on a web page contains an edit box, and the edit box doesn't
> have any place holding text already in it, can a person using only
> Braille with their screen reader detect that the edit box is present?
>
> It's been suggested that unless some text is already given in the box,
> perhaps, "Enter your name here", then the box isn't detectable.
>
> The second part of my enquiry, if the above suggestion holds true, is
> whether a space entered into the box would make any difference to the
> detection of the edit box.
>
> To give all this some context, we're trying to find a solution that
> works for audio and Braille feedback screen reader users. All too
> often, when information is entered into an edit box that already
> contains some text, the two get combined and you end up with something
> like, "Enter your name here John Smith".
>
> There are JavaScript solutions that automatically delete the existing
> text from the box, when the user tabs to it, but if you are one of the
> estimated 10% of Internet users without JavaScript, this doesn't help.
>
> The next idea was to do away with using any place holding text in an
> edit box all together, which is when the possibility of Braille users
> not being able to identify edit boxes was brought up.
>
>
> Hope you'll be able to help, these solutions are usually all the
> better for actually talking to the people using these technologies.
> *Smile.
>
> Thanks,
> Tink.
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>
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