[access-uk] Re: Android

  • From: "Eleanor Burke" <eleanorburke@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 09:47:39 +0100

Thanks for that Jackie as I would be interested in people on list responding in writing also rather than an on-phone demo. I can get that presumably in any store selling the phones. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Cairns" <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 

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Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2012 9:42 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android



Hi Mo
Many thanks. I'm just idly curious at this stage. I have been a Talks user 
for many years, and have the C5 for everyday use, and the N86 as a backup
which contains the K-NFB Reader software.

I didn't much care for the iPhone.  I have got used to the touch-screen
concept as I have an iPod Touch, but wasn't keen on the iPhone  as I found
it cumbersome and not great quality. To me, the phone part of it feels like 
an add-on, but that experience is, of course, very subjective.
But there is now so much talk about Android that I want to become acquainted 
with it, not necessarily to have one, but just to know and understand what
is out there.

So, apologies, but here are my brief questions:

1.  Is Google behind Android in the same way Apple is to the iPhone etc?

2.  Is Android the operating system as opposed to say Symbian on a Nokia
handset?

3.  Where does Ice Cream Sandwich, Jellybean and all these other sweeties
come into play?

4.  Does the accessibility portion come on all Android handsets?

I think that's about it for now, except any feedback about apps and TTS
would be helpful to know too.
Many thanks indeed, and apologies to others who may already know this stuff. 
I've been aware of it, but not paid too much attention until the Georgie
software appeared.  That, I have to say, wouldn't appeal to me.


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
Mobeen Iqbal
Sent: 17 July 2012 09:29
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Android

hi jackie. I have used various android handsets. Accessibility is vastly
improved with 4.0! To give you an overview i can give you a ring at your
convenience? Send me your number off list and we can go from there. Mo.

On 17/07/2012, Jackie Cairns <jackie.cairnsplace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

As I have become kind of interested in this thread, perhaps Steve or
someone with knowledge of Android phones could please tell me which of
them work with accessibility?  I was chatting with my son last night,
and he says two of his friends have the Galaxy S3, whatever that is.
It would appear that Android Smartphones are cheaper than the iPhone,
but do they all work for blindies?  The general threads from people on
this list have aroused my curiosity in Android.  I gather, without
wishing to sound ignorant, that Android is the operating system, so
what is the Ice Cream Sandwich or Jellybean part of it then?  And is
Android something to do with Google?

Sorry to sound vague, but I am only just beginning to wake up to the
Apple alternative, (smile).


Kind Regards,

Jackie Cairns

-----Original Message-----
From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS
Sent: 16 July 2012 17:16
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Android

So, if that is so, which phones does it work on? -

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Beasley <mailto:pjbeasley23@xxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware

androyd is the operating system.

----- Original Message -----
From: Vince Thacker <mailto:vince@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:30 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware

Andy, Android, as I understand it, started off as its own

company,

but is now part of Google.

Vince.

----- Original Message -----
From: ANDY COLLINS <mailto:Andy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>

To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 3:11 PM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass, beware

Hi Steve - I'm still with the N82 [I know I know

<smile>] My

intention when I next go for a phone, was to probably go the IPhone
route, but have to say, I don't like the size and shape of it so much.
Guess I need to find out what the differences are between it, and
Android models. I'm a bit behind with the latest mobile market. Are
Androids the manufacturor name, as with Nokia? Or is Android the OS
produced by Google? -

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: Steve Nutt
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To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 8:31 AM
Subject: [access-uk] Re: Cobolt compass,

beware



Hi Andy,



I've never seen the Cobolt compass, but I do
this on my mainstream Android phone <Smile>.



All the best



Steve



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From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ANDY COLLINS
Sent: 15 July 2012 22:42
To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [access-uk] Cobolt compass, beware



Hi all -



Another waste of dosh! I think I paid about
£35 for this, and it's a load of rubbish. My experience with

it, found it to be both inaccurate and
unpredictable.



Like many things produce for blind people,
it is also very ugly, and cheap looking/feeling.



I'm not just banging the old drum of
complaint against equipment produced for the blind. In fact, it saddens me to find yet again the same experience, of over-priced [but I do understand 
the niche market equals fewer sales argument] ugly build, hardly fit for
purpose, assistive equipment.



  I always try to buy where I can,
mainstream equipment, and figure out how to get the best from it, but
sometimes, mainstream can be too non-accessible, and I am forced to go to
the so-called specialists. It truly gives me no pleasure in bringing to

the
attention of the list this poor piece of specialist equipment, but I think we need to keep shouting for equality in product performance, reliability, 
and aesthetic appeal. I don't want big clunky stuff in my pockets, or
around
my house, just because it can talk, or give me some other kind of
additional
feedback. As I have said before on this list, the PTR1 was the most
over-priced, mal-functioning, hugely ugly piece of junk, I've ever wasted
600 quid on. Sadly, I've wasted 35 on a useless compass, that thinks North 
is wherever it fancies, on any given day -



Andy



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