Well I put this new LG 5th gen based prototype to the test in my apartment today. They have been working with LG to get it to work like the LG prototype from last summer. I received it one hour after a phone call telling me it was coming. They seem to be real up on this one. Received seven physical channels with a dual bow tie aimed at the Empire State Building 40 some blocks away. 2-1 56 at 100% 4-1 28 at 100% 4-2 5-1 44 at 91 - 100% 5-2 7-1 45 at 100% 7-2 9-1 38 at 97 - 100% 9-2 11-1 33 at 100% 11-2 41-1 40 at 100% Should I receive any other channels? The above are all rock solid similar to the first 5th gen receiver. Starting to feel optimistic again. Again pics at http://public.fotki.com/robmx/5th_generation_test/ Next stop Mark's apartment if he is up to it and other known difficult spots. If this is indeed the same as the first receiver and you want one or more than one or know anyone who wants one send me and have your friend send me an email to that affect. I will collect all such pleas on to this company in bulk (if there is a bulk) to influence them to make this thing. They are sort of on the fence. I think I can tip them into immediate production. If so maybe we can get an initial bulk order together. Bob Miller ---------------------------------------------------------------------- You can UNSUBSCRIBE from the OpenDTV list in two ways: - Using the UNSUBSCRIBE command in your user configuration settings at FreeLists.org - By sending a message to: opendtv-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line.