If you allow the notion of picture to be so fluid, doesn't it leave one uncertain whether anything at all clear is being said? Isn't a musical score much more like an algorithm than a picture? A CD is much more like a picture of the sound of a symphony than a score is. To serve in the general argument, isn't a picture required to have some sort of isomorphism to a state of affairs - something that is much more readily attributable to a CD than a score. On 06/08/10 01:15, walto wrote: > > > Do you think not? W gives the example of a musical score picturing a the > sounds of a symphony. Well, scores use the 8va sign to indicate that > everything is to be played an octave up or down and use rests to > indicate that no sounds should be made. Why not a circle with a diagonal > across a picture of a red chair? > > W _ __,_._,___