[Wittrs] Re: Yes: Meanings and Properties [Was: The CRA: Is the Third Premise True?]
- From: Gordon Swobe <gts_2000@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 13:51:05 -0700 (PDT)
Hi Budd,
I still have reservations about the man in the room understanding and following
rules in English. In that respect the CRT fails as a proper model of a UTM.
I still like my Language Room Argument, in which the man starts with a complete
semantic deficit, follows the rules via a non-linguistic method, and fails to
obtain understanding of anything whatsoever. My argument seems much cleaner,
but in the final analysis I have to agree with you that Searle had no other way
to make his point. My LRA would make sense mainly to those who already grok the
contentious 3rd axiom.
-gts
--- On Sat, 4/10/10, gabuddabout <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> From: gabuddabout <wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [Wittrs] Yes: Meanings and Properties [Was: The CRA: Is the Third
> Premise True?]
> To: wittrsamr@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 4:11 PM
> Gordon writes:
>
> > Because Dennett and Stuart cannot refute the true
> meaning of axiom 3, they have no choice but to change the
> subject and try to say that Searle got his own thought
> experiment wrong.
> >
> > -gts
>
>
>
> Hi Gordon,
>
> So tell me, what has since convinced you that he didn't, to
> use your own words from a few months ago! :-), "muck up his
> own thought experiment" given the complication from the
> target article that the humunculus had to know English in
> order to draw the moral between functional and first-order
> properties?
>
>
> Cheers,
> Budd
>
>
>
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