Cayuse wrote: >Joseph Polanik wrote: >>Cayuse wrote: >>>Joseph Polanik wrote: >>>>are there other consciousnesses? it's a simple question. the >>>>possible answers are 'yes', 'no' and 'I don't know'. >>>I'm not presenting an argument about whether or not there are other >>>consciousnesses -- I'm presenting an argument about human behavior. >>are you trying to explain the entirety of human behavior (including >>interpersonal behavior) on the basis of a theory of consciousness that >>is consistent with solipsism!? >I'm not presenting a theory of consciousness -- I'm presenting an >argument about human behavior. Language is integral to human behavior, yes; and, it is your linguistic behavior that is at issue. earlier you wrote: >Whether or not there are other consciousnesses cannot be known, and >furthermore it has no practical application, though we behave as though >there are other consciousnesses. I behave as though there are other consciousnesses; but, you do not. as a language game, your linguistic behavior is consistent with a solipsistic philosophy. let's look at some of it. in another thread you say, [Cayuse]: 'There is experience therefore there is an experiencer' is a nonsensical deduction. the statement 'There is experience therefore there is an experiencer' is a deductive argument. it seems that we agree on that. however, you apparently believe that the statement *is* nonsensical when the only evidence you have is that it seems nonsensical *to you* only in a solipsistic universe would 'it makes no sense *to me*' be equivalent to 'it is nonsensical'; so, your linguistic behavior constitutes a language game consistent with a solipsistic philosophy. there is a second example of this phenomenon in the same passage. I've pointed out to you several times that my argument is stated in the first person; for example: I experience; therefore, I am ... this experiencer. in a solipsistic language game would 'I experience' be equivalent to 'there is experience'; but, otherwise, translating 'I experience' into 'there is experience' evades the argument *as presented*. consequently, it *does* make a difference whether your linguistic behavior is based on the assumption that there *are* other consciousnesses or the assumption that you are compelled to behave as if under the influence of an instinctive belief that there are other consciousnesses. Joe -- Nothing Unreal is Self-Aware @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ http://what-am-i.net @^@~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~@^@ ========================================== Manage Your AMR subscription: //www.freelists.org/list/wittrsamr For all your Wittrs needs: http://ludwig.squarespace.com/wittrslinks/