I suspect that most of us, when we hear of "the ethics of birding," immediately think of such unethical activities as baiting owls, pishing for birds during nesting season, disturbing eagles in winter, etc. But that's not my point! Neither am I rasing the question of whether or not "heard only" birds should be counted on one's life list. (I freely acknowledge that a relatively small number of "heard only" birds have, at one time, occupied such a slot on my own life list - perhaps the best-known one being the Whip-poor-will - prior to seeing one years later. One-by-one, I think I've now seen all such birds as well as heard them.) My query relates to the matter of photography as an aid to bird ID. I have three examples, all of which have occurred in my own outings... 1) When I first spotted the Western and Red-necked Grebes on Geneva Lake during a CBC, they were so far away that I couldn't positively ID them - even when viewing them through my scope. The conditions were horrible for viewing. I knew the birds were grebes, and my initial impression is that they were perhaps Horned Grebes. But the more I looked the more I suspected that they might very well be a Western Grebe and a Red-necked Grebe. What did I do? I digiscoped a bunch of images, rushed home and transferred the images to my laptop, and then it was clear that the birds really were Western and Red-necked Grebes - a fact confirmed over the course of the next few days when both grebes were much closer! But I counted them on my CBC on the day of the initial sighting, and notified wisbirdn about their presence, prior to being able to positively ID them in the field (but after confirming ID on my computer). 2) When grandson Oliver pointed out a grouse while we were hiking, I simply assumed that he was seeing a Ruffed Grouse. My bad eyes could only see a speck in front of me. I had no time to check the bird with my bins, but opted instead to raise my camera (with only a moderate telephoto lens), and squeeze off a few shots. It wasn't until we were back in the camper, reviewing the images on my dSLR's LCD, that I knew the grouse was a Spruce Grouse. So I counted it! (It was a "lifer" and I have Oliver to thank!) The next day, we retraced our steps, and came across the Spruce Grouse again - this time only a couple feet away! 3) On another occasion, while scanning a flock of peeps, I assumed that all the peeps were Least and Semipalmated Sandpipers. The view was bad, and I decided to take a few images. Later, back at home, it was clear that I also had a couple of other peeps (Bairds or White-rumped, I don't recall which right now). I decided to list this other peep on my day's count. Acually, even as I write I recall yet another incident, one that took place at Duluth's Hawk Ridge. I had been watching kettles of Broad-winged Hawks, and decided to take some shots. Later, back home again, it was clear that a Sharpie or two were in the mix. So I listed them too. (Of coruse in this case I'd seen other Sharpies the same day.) What I'm discovering as I get older, and my eyesight deteriorates, is that some birds are too distant, or fly away too quickly, to ID in the field. In other cases (a flock of peeps, a kettle of hawks, a lone Bohemian Waxwing mixed in with a flock of Cedar Waxwings), I can simply miss what's there. (I even recall photographing a bunch of dabbling and diving ducks on Delavan Lake one time, and failing to see the Green-winged Teal back in the reeds. Guess what? Yes, back home it was crystal clear that the teal was really there ... so I counted it for the day's outing.) Digital photography has helped me see better, quite a number of times. (Another case in point: Seeing a bird perched in a tree too far away to ID ... then photographing it with my camera and long lens, zooming in on the LCD, and seeing what I couldn't see with my bins! At least this occurs in real time, while actually birding.) All this might very well get more complicated to untangle when it comes to competitive birding - such as May Day or Big Day Counts. Where does/should one draw the line? What are the rules, and where are the boundaries? Any thoughts? Wayne Rohde Walworth, WI #################### You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding Network (Wisbirdn). To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn