Tom was successful on a day with fairly strong ENE winds which moved many birds to the beach. This may have added to his success. The later time may also be a key. Mark Korducki, New Berlin -----Original Message----- >From: Schaufenbuel <schaufenbuel@xxxxxxxxxxx> >Sent: Jul 21, 2009 10:20 PM >To: david@xxxxxxxx >Cc: wisbirdn@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: [wisb] Re: FW: California Gull frustration > >Frustrating indeed. > >I spent over four hours today working the gulls at Interstate Beach and >I am confident the bird was not there between 9:00 AM and 1:00 PM >today. I was planning on staying until 3:00 PM but more and more >people came to chase the birds forcing a good number of gulls to move >elsewhere. > >Joe Schaufenbuel >Stevens Point, >Portage Co., WI > > > >David, Karl H. wrote: >> Here's my experience with the California Gull, originally sent just to >> Tom Prestby. >> >> >> Karl David >> >> Milwaukee >> >> >> >> From: David, Karl H. >> Sent: Monday, July 20, 2009 11:40 AM >> To: 'jjprestby@xxxxxxx' >> Subject: California Gull frustration >> >> >> >> Tom, >> >> >> >> It was a frustrating weekend with the California Gull! Saturday evening >> there were lots of gulls and eventually I singled one out asleep near >> the edge of the beach with a darker mantle. It had its head tucked into >> its back but the eye was definitely dark with a red orbital ring, and >> this impression never changed [light-eyed gulls can sometimes briefly >> appear to have dark irises; it must have something to do with blinking >> and their nictitating membrane]. I stayed patiently on it and eventually >> it stuck its head out and I got quick looks at the bill; some red near >> the tip of the lower mandible, but (as you said) no black noticeable. In >> any case, it wasn't a Ring-billed bill, not just by coloration but also >> by size; and it wasn't a Herring Gull by the eyes and head shape and >> size. >> >> >> >> Then a couple of preteen girls I was sharing the beach with decided it >> would be great fun to run full speed at the gulls and flush them. When >> they tired of their sport, I was unable to refind the bird. Just before >> I left, I did think I had it, but that turned out (probably) to be one >> of the Lesser Black-backed Gulls ... it had smudges on the head so I >> knew it wasn't the California Gull, though I think these two gulls are >> roughly the same size. >> >> >> >> Frustrating, so I came back Sunday evening. I studied your photos again >> and decided just on head shape alone (the head looks too small for the >> body) I would not confuse anything else with the California Gull. This >> time an Illinois birder joined me, and we had decent numbers of birds. >> Three hours, and nothing! However, I'm totally convinced it's because it >> wasn't there ... we really worked the flock well. For whatever reasons >> (light, wear, age) there were certainly gulls there with darker-looking >> mantles, but they all turned out to be Ring-bills (as soon as we saw the >> bill) or Herrings (as soon as we saw the pink legs). The good news was >> that nothing fooled me into thinking it might be the California for very >> long, whereas the bird I was studying at length Saturday never "lost" >> the California impression. But, because it was lying down, I never saw >> the greenish legs to help me confirm it, nor note the two-toned effect >> of the bill ... it just looked like it had some red on the lower >> mandible and a few other random smudgy marks. >> >> >> >> Masochist that I am, I will probably try again. The Illinois birder said >> it was only being seen once every couple of weeks or so, so it must have >> a number of spots it likes to frequent, and this is the only one >> anyone's found so far. >> >> >> >> Karl >> >> >> #################### >> You received this email because you are subscribed to the Wisconsin Birding >> Network (Wisbirdn). >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or SUBSCRIBE, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. >> To set DIGEST or VACATION modes, use the Wisbirdn web interface at: >> //www.freelists.org/list/wisbirdn. >> Visit Wisbirdn ARCHIVES at: //www.freelists.org/archives/wisbirdn. >> >> >> >> > >-- >--------------------------------------------- >Joe Schaufenbuel >5676 Regent St. >Stevens Point >Portage County, WI 54481 >(715) 345-2788 > >"The most exciting phrase to hear in science, >the one that heralds new discoveries, is not >'Eureka!' 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