I know that there are firewalls out there that block programs from accessing the web. I got into a debate with a friend.. (who is a Linux freak... suse to be exact) about Microsoft and having programs like windows media player reporting back to Microsoft on what stuff you watch and what u listen to.. anyhow the question I have is if u have a firewall that blocks all outgoing packets ( prohibits specified programs from accessing the net) is there stuff imbedded in the os that would report back that wouldn't be stopped by the firewall ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm