take a look at these sites http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/26698.html and http://www.securitysoftware.cc/apps.html Greg -----Original Message----- From: Daniel Angelucci [mailto:daniel_angelucci@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 7:28 AM To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [windows2000] Re: Microsoft Big Brother Turning off Windows Update does not modify the EULA. Since the = mechanism by=20 which M$ can download or upload information to your computer is not=20 specified in the EULA, they needn't be restricted to just Windows Update = for=20 assaulting your privacy. I have the update feature turned off on all the computers I am = responsible=20 for, but I still feel exposed. In the short term, there is almost nothing you can do about this EULA = except=20 maybe register your complaints with the Monolith in Redmond. I think = sys=20 admins who are not investigating alternatives to M$ operating systems = are=20 failing to do their job. After all, there is a best tool for every job. = =20 Sometimes it's M$ software, sometimes it's not. I work in a very heterogeneous environment, so for my client system, the = best decision (I think) is an OS X Mac. Basically, it allows me to do=20 everything I usually do on a Windows machine and has all the Unix tools = that=20 I need as well. Of course, after reading these emails, I probably ought to go back and = check=20 Apple's EULA.... Dan >From: "Ray at home" <listray@xxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [windows2000] Re: Microsoft Big Brother >Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 04:28:42 -0400 > > >Just turn off the updating service and add >http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/catalog/en/default.asp as a >favorite if you're paranoid about these things. > >Ray at home > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >[mailto:windows2000-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of G.Lemos > >Sent: Friday, August 23, 2002 11:29 PM > >To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Subject: [windows2000] Microsoft Big Brother > > > > > > > >I have questions regarding some of the things I have read in several = of > >Microsoft EULA's. Namely SP3 for W2K and WMP. I have included > >them below. > >What exactly does this mean? This seems like a highly insecure > >way of doing > >things. Personally I > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation >mode or view archives use the below link. > >http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm ================================== To Unsubscribe, set digest or vacation mode or view archives use the below link. http://thethin.net/win2000list.cfm