[windows2000] Re: Courtesy in posting (was Re: Demotion will just not work)
- From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 09:59:25 -0700
Great point... However, your message is guilty of everything you just
complained about.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremiah Kivi Shapiro [mailto:kivi_s@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2002 9:40 PM
To: windows2000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [windows2000] Courtesy in posting (was Re: Demotion will just
not work)
Dear list,
At the risk of getting flamed, could I ask that everyone please be more
careful about following mailing-list etiquette? This Windows 2000 list
is one that more than once has saved me hours of problemsolving time --
but that every week takes those same hours away.
The posting below is only one example. In a matter of hours, it has
been repeated from one poster to another to the point where it now
contains over 300 lines of quoted text -- all for a two-line reply.
And those 300 lines themselves have been quoted and requoted already.
Yes, there is merit to context, but with five minutes' work the poster
could have trimmed those 300 lines of context to 10 or fewer. And
considering that the list has over 1400 subscribers, that means a
significant overall savings of person-hours.
Please let me stress that this one posting is simply a representative
sample, and these particular people are no more guilty than the rest of
us. But that's just the problem: there's so much quoting and
requoting of old messages on this list that it becomes extremely
difficult to pick out what is new.
Actually, it's not quite representative. There are four added features
that make this posting especially difficult to use:
1) repeated use of "-----Original Message-----" instead of the usual
">" markers to indicate quoted text. There is only one original
message here, but that string occurs seven times, with no other
indication of who said what.
2) repeated .signatures and various appendices to the messages. Folks,
you really don't need to quote back to everyone the technique for
unsubscribing from the list, especially seven times. It's only going
to be added again at the bottom of the new message.
3) URL-encoding of those same signatures. For time saving purposes, I
use the digest version of this list, and it's incredibly hard to find
the next message after wading through a sea of "=3D"s. (Hard enough to
find the next message with this system anyway, but I respect Jim's
decision to move the list.) And notices that binary files have been
removed. Why are you quoting that? This isn't a binary list; the
files shouldn't have been there in the first place.
4) long lines. My mail client (Yahoo! mail) breaks messages at 80
characters, so anything longer than that looks just terrible. Email
software should be configured so as not to produce any lines longer
than 70 characters, to allow for quoting characters -- i.e. the
aforementioned ">"s.
A little courtesy goes a long way. Because this list comes in our
inboxes, and because it has a very nice level of friendly banter, I
think we forget sometimes that there are over 1400 people receiving
every one of these messages. But there are. Please let's conserve
those person-hours.
Yours,
Kivi
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Subject: [windows2000] Re: Demotion will just not work
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 15:09:26 -0400
From: "Vincent Avallone"
In my case, this DC has NO FSMO roles and is not the root DC.
It is pretty much dispensable in that regard.
--
Vincent Avallone
iBiquity Digital
(410) 872-1535
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