Re: Invisible Winamp

  • From: Chris Skarstad <toonhead5@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 10:39:45 -0500

Hi Pam
You said:



I love these people who tell me to empower myself and that I should just
learn something.  If it were that easy, I'd already know it.
Well, that's not necessarily true, although I do understand your frustration. What I've always strived to do here is make this list a friendly place to learn information. Unfortunately I can't control people on the list to the point where everything is all nice and sugar coated and sanitized for your protection.
Sometimes you're just gonna see or hear stuff you don't like and that, my friends, is just how it goees. But we're not atempting to put you down when we say, "empower yourself." What we're atempting to do, or at least what *i* am atempting to do is encourage folks to try new things. You don't know how to use the playlist editor? Well,you're never gonna know how it works for you unless you try it out for yourself and see. Get yourself some new experience. This way you can say you did it and you can give more specific info about a problem you might be having. It's not gonna be easy to help someone who posts a message and says, well, I wanna try the playlist editor, but I'm not sure how. You'll probably get messages back saying how to do it and give you some encouragement to, and that's exactly what I want. and at the same time if you give specifics as to what you tried, it's that much easier to help you so you can get that problem solved that much faster. and let me tell you there's absolutely no better feeling in the world when you solve a problem all on your own without the help of a list or anything. Of course we're here to help, but that's a good feeling. This list is here to help you help yourself.


But if you just say, "it's too hardd, I don't think I can do it." You just talked yourself out of trying something new. So, this is all about motivation. If you really wanna learn something, try it out for yourself. You said before that if it was really that easy, you'd already know how. Well, it just might be easier than you think. and then when you try it and you have success, everyone including you is happy. You can say I learned something new today.
Ok, motivational speech over, lol.















----- Original Message -----
From: "Bruce Toews" <water_drinker@xxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: Invisible Winamp


> Now's as good a time as any to learn. Empower yourself. Your screen reader > gives you excellent access to the sys tray. > > Bruce > > -- > Bruce Toews > E-mail and MSN/Windows Messenger: water_drinker@xxxxxxxx > Web Site (including info on my weekly commentaries): http://www.ogts.net > Info on the Best TV Show of All Time: http://www.cornergas.com > > On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, George and Pamela Dominguez wrote: > > > This sounds great, but I don't know how to use the systray. Pam. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "arlene" <nedster66@xxxxxxxxx> > > To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:09 PM > > Subject: Re: Invisible Winamp > > > > > >> wow thats some task. I'll have to try it. > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Gene" <guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:28 AM > >> Subject: Invisible Winamp > >> > >> > >>> I got this on another list I belong to and thought it would be of > > interest > >>> to some here. > >>> > >>> Greetings All. > >>> > >>> I was rather bored this morning, so I did this write-up on how to blind > >>> customize Winamp. I hope someone can make use of it... I have my Winamp > >>> program set up just this way and let me tell you: It is awesome! Gone > >>> are the days of screaming at landing in Winamp's window by accident, > >>> typing something and having it end up screwing with the playing of media > >>> files. Enjoy! > >>> > >>> The Invisible Winamp! > >>> > >>> For those of us who can't stand the chore of alt-tabbing from > >>> window to window to find our media player just to make a quick > >>> adjustment or to advance the playlist, or for those of us who hate > >>> having more windows open on the taskbar than necessary, or even for > >>> those of us who just want quick and easy access to our media without the > >>> hassle of negotiating multiple windows and remembering multiple formless > >>> commands (I subscribe to all three schools, go me!): The following > >>> write-up should help alleviate these inconveniences. > >>> Winamp is designed to be a very modular application. You can > >>> introduce your own skins (interface customizations), window tweaks, and > >>> even change the command input structure. We can take advantage of this > >>> modular construction and: > >>> * Completely eliminate the presence of the Winamp window, > >>> * In doing so, we remove the hassle of interacting with the Winamp > >>> window, > >>> * We can still control various functions that we don't always access via > >>> the system tray, > >>> * We can freely open or close the Winamp application without it ever > >>> getting in the way, > >>> * All the controls to the media player are at our fingertips, > >>> * We can change what media we're listening to, alter the play volume, > >>> navigate through the currently playing media, or even access Winamp's > >>> library at our whim to access online material, > >>> * A slew of many other Winamp commands are now just a keystroke away. > >>> > >>> We can achieve this level of instantaneous control with Global > >>> Hotkeys, a feature included in Winamp which few people have come to > >>> truly appreciate. Global Hotkeys give us access to many of Winamp's > >>> commands. There are admittedly a few gaps, but perhaps these will be > >>> fixed in future versions. > >>> > >>> Switch to the Winamp window (hopefully for the last few times!). > >>> Once you're in the Winamp main window (or any other Winamp window such > >>> as the playlist editor), access the preferences dialog with a CTRL-P. If > >>> upon entering the preferences dialog you did not land on the tree view > >>> of various categorical options, TAB or SHIFT-TAB accordingly until you > >>> have done so. Once here, move to the top of the list, which should be > >>> "Winamp Pro". > >>> You will notice that I will be skipping over a lot of fields and/or > >>> options. This is because I'm only covering the fields which apply to our > >>> goal: chucking Winamp's window and gaining us nearly full keyboard > >>> control from anywhere. > >>> > >>> Move down to the "General Preferences" branch of the tree. TAB > >>> twice and make sure that your desired language is selected (for most of > >>> us, that will be "English (US)"). If your desired language is not listed > >>> here, you may TAB to the "Find more languages" button and hit enter here > >>> to try and track down yours. This step goes beyond the scope of this > >>> write-up, and therefore will not be discussed here. > >>> TAB repeatedly until your focus lands on the "Show splash screen" > >>> checkbox. Since we're getting rid of Winamp's window anyway, lets make > >>> sure this is unchecked (it'll just be delaying us). > >>> TAB about four times from this point and your focus should land on > >>> "Taskbar", which is an option in the "Show Winamp in:" group of options. > >>> We will definitely want to uncheck this, since this is the focal point > >>> of our goal (it's the option which will tell Winamp to behave and hide > >>> itself). > >>> TAB once passed the "Taskbar" checkbox, and you should land on the > >>> "System tray " field, which is still in the same > >>> group of options. This is actually a personal preference option. Once > >>> you've got all your hotkeys defined and working in good order, you may > >>> elect to uncheck this option to remove still more clutter from your > >>> system as Winamp serves up your media. For now though, lets leave it > >>> unchecked so that, in the event that you need to leave the preferences > >>> dialog before your hotkeys are all set (or heaven forbid, Winamp or > >>> windows crashes somehow), you'll still have a means of interacting with > >>> the Winamp application (via the system tray). > >>> TAB thrice till you land on the "Scroll title in the Windows > >>> taskbar" field. We're banishing Winamp to the world of the unseen, so > >>> lets uncheck this field. Although it probably won't have any effect > >>> whilst Winamp is happily hiding in the system tray, it's better to be > >>> consistent. > >>> We're done here, so lets tab a few times back to the tree view. Our > >>> next stop is further down in the "Titles" branch of the tree view, so > >>> lets navigate down there. > >>> > >>> TAB twice and you will land in a group of three radio buttons which > >>> pertain to the "Metadata Reading" options group. Since we're not going > >>> to actually view the file names as they're playing anyhow, lets change > >>> the option to read as "Read metadata only when file(s) are played". Do > >>> so by the normal means of selecting different radio buttons. > >>> We're actually done with this branch of the tree view (that was the > >>> only thing we needed to either change or make sure of). Lets SHIFT-TAB > >>> twice back into our tree view. > >>> > >>> Now comes the big and, yes, rather long section of this write-up. > >>> We're going to actually start defining the hotkeys that we'll be using > >>> to control Winamp, now that we've kicked it into the corner to hide > >>> under the bed. Grab a cup of coffee, tea, water, or whatever it is that > >>> suits your fancy, because we'll be here for quite a bit. > >>> Whilst in the tree view, navigate down to the "Global Hotkeys" > >>> branch. I hope you've got a good supply of coffee or whatever it is > >>> you're sipping, because here we go. > >>> > >>> TAB twice and make sure that the "Enabled" checkbox is checked > >>> (otherwise none of your hotkeys will work, you won't be able to change > >>> anything pertaining to hotkeys, and... this write-up will be completely > >>> worthless). > >>> TAB again, and now you should have landed in a list view which > >>> contains some pre-made global hotkeys. My advice is to remove them all > >>> and start anew. It's a longer process, but a much cleaner one. You'll > >>> know exactly what you're adding, and therefore won't be making any > >>> duplicates (which Winamp will yell at you about). > >>> Begin by making sure you're on the first item in the list view. > >>> Move your mouse cursor (JAWS cursor if you're using JFW) to your focus > >>> (PC cursor in JFW). If this first item isn't already selected, click on > >>> it with the appropriate command from your screen reader or by manually > >>> clicking with the mouse (just make sure the pointer doesn't move in the > >>> process). Once the item is highlighted, hit ALT+R. That item is now > >>> deleted. > >>> Click the mouse again, and again the first item in the list will be > >>> selected. Continue to repeat the deletion process till all the entries > >>> in the list view are removed. > >>> > >>> Now a small blurb about how Winamp handles its hotkey labeling. > >>> Before you attempt to make a new entry, you must make sure that there > >>> are no selected items in the list view of defined hotkeys. If there are > >>> no items there to start with, this is easy (there's nothing to be > >>> selected). If there are items, you must make sure that nothing's > >>> selected before you add new hotkeys. You can do this by navigating to > >>> the list view, then hitting either HOME or END to change the highlight. > >>> Now that you're sure the item under the focus is selected, hit > >>> CTRL-SPACE to unselect it. > >>> Failing to follow this step will cause Winamp to think you're > >>> trying to change the command associated with that entry. You might spend > >>> several minutes blithely creating new hotkeys, when in fact all you've > >>> been doing is modifying the same highlighted entry with new commands or > >>> new hotkeys. > >>> > >>> Lets create our first item. TAB to the combo box that houses all > >>> the possible commands that can be triggered via a hotkey. We'll go in > >>> presented order, so lets choose the first item. Press home, you should > >>> be on "General: Copy file path". TAB over to the "Hotkey" edit field. > >>> Press the desired key combination which you'd like to be associated with > >>> this item (for example, WINDOWS KEY+CTRL+C). Once you're satisfied with > >>> the key combination you've chosen, TAB once to the "Add" button, and hit > >>> SPACE. > >>> Now that you've created your first item, you must make sure that, > >>> as stated earlier, no items are selected in the list view containing > >>> currently defined hotkeys. If you haven't moved your mouse since > >>> clearing the list of pre-defined hotkeys, it's in the perfect position. > >>> Just click your mouse, hit CTRL-SPACE, then you're ready once more to > >>> create a new hotkey. > >>> Lets TAB back into that combo box and create a new entry for the > >>> next command, "General: Copy title". Navigate to it in the combo box > >>> (it's the second entry), then TAB once to the "Hotkey" edit field. Press > >>> the desired key combination for this command (WINDOWS KEY+SHIFT+C in my > >>> case). TAB once when you're satisfied with the new key combination and > >>> hit SPACE on the "Add" button. > >>> Repeat this process for each of the commands in the combo for which > >>> you'd like a hotkey for. > >>> If you need to change the hotkey for an existing entry: Navigate to > >>> and highlight the entry in question in the list view of defined hotkeys. > >>> TAB twice to the "Hotkey" edit field, then press the new key combination > >>> you wish to have associated with this entry. Once satisfied with the new > >>> key combination, TAB twice to the "Set" button and hit SPACE to change > >>> the entries hotkey definition. > >>> Remember, always make sure that no entries are selected in the list > >>> view of currently defined hotkeys if you wish to create a new one. If > >>> you're changing an existing entry, never activate the "Add" button, > >>> otherwise you will create a duplicate entry with the new hotkey. You may > >>> find this useful if you'd like having multiple ways of accessing the > >>> same command, but that'll just clutter up your hotkey list and also make > >>> things less conformed (and therefore slightly harder to remember in the > >>> end). > >>> > >>> Below is a list of the contents of the combo box of available > >>> commands accompanied by a small explanation as to what it does. If I've > >>> defined a hotkey for a command in the list, it will be placed after the > >>> description of the command inside braces ({}). Any footnotes are in > >>> brackets ([]). > >>> > >>> * General: Copy file path -- Copies the file path of the currently > >>> playing or highlighted file to the clipboard. {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + C} > >>> * General: Copy title -- Copies the title (as displayed by Winamp) of > >>> the currently playing or highlighted file to the clipboard. {WINDOWS KEY > >>> + SHIFT + C} > >>> * General: Quit -- Exits Winamp. {WINDOWS KEY + F4} > >>> > >>> * ML: Show/Hide Media Library -- Toggles the "Media Library" window > >>> between being shown (focused) and hidden. This way, you can keep Winamp > >>> hidden, but still access the media library to play an internet radio > >>> station, for example. {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + M} > >>> > >>> * Playback: End of list -- Moves to and plays the last file in your > >>> playlist (inactive if your playlist has only one item). {WINDOWS KEY + > >>> NUM 3} > >>> * Playback: Forward -- Fast forward through a media file. {WINDOWS KEY > >>> + NUM 9} > >>> * Playback: Jump to box -- Brings up the "Jump to" dialog box, which > >>> allows one to move quickly to a file in a playlist. {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL > >>> + J} > >>> * Playback: Next in play list -- Moves to and plays the next file in > >>> the playlist (if any) [1]. {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 6} > >>> * Playback: Open file dialog -- Brings up the "Open file" dialog which > >>> allows one to open and play a single file. {WINDOWS KEY + NUM PLUS} > >>> * Playback: Open folder dialog -- Brings up the "Open folder" dialog > >>> which allows one to play entire folders and subfolders. {WINDOWS KEY + > >>> SHIFT + NUM PLUS} > >>> * Playback: Open location dialog -- Brings up the "Open location" > >>> dialog, which allows one to play a media stream or file with an > >>> associated URL. {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + NUM PLUS} > >>> * Playback: Pause -- Pauses the currently playing media file. > >>> * Playback: Play -- Plays or restarts the playing of a media file. > >>> {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + NUM 5} > >>> * Playback: Play/pause -- Pauses or plays the currently > >>> playing/highlighted media file [1]. {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 5} > >>> * Playback: Previous in play list -- Moves to and plays the previous > >>> media file in the playlist (if any) [1]. {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 4} > >>> * Playback: Repeat off -- Unconditionally turns repeat mode off > >>> (whether it was on or off to begin with). > >>> * Playback: Repeat on -- Unconditionally turns repeat mode on (whether > >>> it was on or off to begin with). > >>> * Playback: Rewind -- Moves backwards through a currently playing or > >>> highlighted media file. {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 7} > >>> * Playback: Start of list -- Moves to and plays the first file in the > >>> playlist (assuming there are more than one file). {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 1} > >>> * Playback: Stop -- Stops the currently playing media file. {WINDOWS > >>> KEY + NUM MINUS} > >>> * Playback: Stop after current -- Stops playback once the currently > >>> playing file has finished. {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + NUM MINUS} > >>> * Playback: Stop w/fade -- Stops the current file while fading it out, > >>> instead of an instant stop. {WINDOWS KEY + SHIFT + NUM MINUS} > >>> * Playback: Toggle repeat -- Toggles the playing of files within the > >>> currently loaded playlist repeatedly (on/off). {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + NUM > >>> ASTERISK} > >>> * Playback: Toggle shuffle -- Toggles the shuffling of files within > >>> the currently loaded playlist (on/off). {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + NUM SLASH} > >>> * Playback: Volume down -- Decreases the playing volume of Winamp [1]. > >>> {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 2} > >>> * Playback: Volume up -- Increases the playing volume of Winamp [1]. > >>> {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 8} > >>> > >>> * Playlist: Remove duplicate entries -- Remove duplicate entries from > >>> the currently loaded playlist. > >>> > >>> * Rate Current Item: * -- Rates the current file [2]. {WINKEY + CTRL + > >>> 1} [4] > >>> * Rate Current Item: ** -- Rates the current file [2]. {WINKEY + CTRL > >>> + 2} [4] > >>> * Rate Current Item: *** -- Rates the current file [2]. {WINKEY + CTRL > >>> + 3} [4] > >>> * Rate Current Item: **** -- Rates the current file [2]. {WINKEY + > >>> CTRL + 4} [4] > >>> * Rate Current Item: ***** -- Rates the current file [2]. {WINKEY + > >>> CTRL + 5} [4] > >>> * Rate Current Item: No Rating -- Rates the current file [2]. {WINKEY > >>> + CTRL + 0} [4] > >>> > >>> * UI: About -- Brings up the "About" dialog, which gives information > >>> about the current version of Winamp, etc. {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL { B} > >>> * UI: Bring to front/hide Winamp -- Hides or shows the Winamp > >>> application. {WINDOWS KEY + CTRL + W} > >>> * UI: Preferences -- Brings up the "Preferences" dialog. {WINDOWS KEY > >>> + CTRL + P} > >>> * UI: Select skin -- Brings up the "Select skin" dialog, which allows > >>> the user to change the look of Winamp (not recommended for screen reader > >>> users). > >>> * UI: Toggle always on top -- Toggles Winamp between "Always stay on > >>> top" and normal mode. Note: "Always on top" is not screen reader > >>> friendly! > >>> * UI: Toggle doublesize -- Toggle Winamp between "doublesize" and > >>> normal mode (changes size of application window). > >>> * UI: Toggle EQ -- Toggles the hide/show status of the Winamp graphics > >>> equalizer. > >>> * UI: Toggle main window -- Toggles the hide/show status of the Winamp > >>> main window. > >>> * UI: Toggle minibrowser -- Toggles the hide/show status of the Winamp > >>> minibrowser. > >>> * UI: Toggle play list -- Toggles the hide/show status of the Winamp > >>> playlist editor. > >>> * UI: Toggle play list windowshade -- [3] > >>> * UI: Toggle windowshade -- [3] > >>> > >>> * Visualization: Preferences -- [3] > >>> * Visualization: Toggle -- [3] > >>> > >>> Footnotes: > >>> [1]: In some instances, this key arrangement is not necessarily the > >>> best. For example, if one is using JFW inside Internet Explorer, the key > >>> combination is intercepted by the screen reader. For example, if one > >>> tries to turn the volume down with {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 2}, JFW will > >>> intercept the keystroke and attempt to perform its own attached script > >>> or command. The easiest way around this, of course, is to not use the > >>> offending key combination. Change the {WINDOWS KEY + NUM 2} to something > >>> like {WINDOWS KEY + SHIFT + NUM 2}, and things should work just fine. > >>> [2]: The ratings commands allow one to "rate" the currently playing > >>> or highlighted media file according to how much they liked it, etc. The > >>> number of asterisks next to each entry signifies your rating: one > >>> asterisk is worse, five asterisks is best. The "No rating" option is > >>> presumably a "I abstain" choice. > >>> [3]: I haven't yet used this feature enough to give a fair > >>> definition or explanation of it. Therefore, rather than giving > >>> misleading information, I leave it up to others to interpret those > >>> entries. > >>> [4]: These hotkeys refer to the keys on the numeric row above the > >>> home row, and not those of the number pad. > >>> > >>> Once you've got all your global hotkeys set up, close the > >>> preferences dialog. Close Winamp, then reload it. (The best way to make > >>> it even more invisible is to attach a hotkey to the Winamp shortcut, > >>> that way you don't even have to find the shortcut to open the program.) > >>> If all went well, you should now have a completely invisible, fully > >>> functional media player that's totally keyboard driven. You've saved > >>> space on your taskbar, time switching between application windows, and > >>> gained a great deal of control over the application... all at your > >>> fingertips. No more juggling windows: Now you can work on that > >>> two-thousand page essay the Professor needs by tonight (Hopefully you're > >>> at least on page two already) and still enjoy your though-provoking > >>> music. > >>> > >>> > >>> Thanks; Gene > >>> > >>> On MSN and Yahoo - guystevens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> To post a message to the list, send it to winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to: > >>> winamp4theblind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the > >>> subject line. > >>> Archives located at: > >>> //www.freelists.org/archives/winamp4theblind> > >>> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > >>> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list directly. > >>> Instead, please contact > >>> the list owners at winamp4theblind-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> No virus found in this incoming message. > >>> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >>> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.7.8/22 - Release Date: 6/17/2005 > >> > >> To post a message to the list, send it to winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > >> To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to: > >> winamp4theblind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the > > subject line. > >> Archives located at: > >> //www.freelists.org/archives/winamp4theblind> > >> If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > >> the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list directly. > > Instead, please contact > >> the list owners at winamp4theblind-admins@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> > > > > > > To post a message to the list, send it to winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > > To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please send a message to: > > winamp4theblind-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the word unsubscribe in the subject line. > > Archives located at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/winamp4theblind> > > If you have any concerns about the list, post received from the list, or > > the way the list is being run, do not post them to the list directly. 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