RE: AOL shuts down Winamp for good

  • From: Doris and Chris <chipmunks@xxxxxxx>
  • To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2013 22:49:32 -0500

And it will keep working. Just as with my beloved eudora, the developers giving up on it does not mean the end of its life.In fact, with eudroa, it keeps getting new users.


Doris

At 04:14 PM 11/20/2013 -0800, you wrote:
As will I, I'm not getting rid of Winamp.  I swear by that player.  Thanks
Chris for keeping this list going!  I worship the ground Winamp walks on
loll. Just kidding. I'll just keep on using it!

-----Original Message-----
From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of dennis
Sent: November-20-13 1:17 PM
To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: AOL shuts down Winamp for good

i'm glad to hear that. i will use this player for ever. there isn't another
one that comes close.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Skarstad" <rascal0826@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: AOL shuts down Winamp for good


> Just install right over the top and when the skin selection dialogue
> comes up, choose current and that'll keep your current settings.
> This is really sad news folks.  But, when AOL bought Winamp they
> basicly shut them off in a deep dark corner and let everything go to
> hell.  Hey 15 years for a media player is pretty good and yes you'll
> be able to run Winamp after it shuts down, there just won't be anymore
> updates, i just wanted to put that out there before anyone asked.
> I fully intend to keep the list going, because loads and loads of
> people will still use it and will still have questions.  So this list
> isn't going away either.
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> On 11/20/2013 3:37 PM, Duyahn Walker wrote:
>> It will be the same so long as you put it in classic skin mode.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Smith, Peter Alan"
>> <SmithPA@xxxxxxxx>
>> To: <winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:36 PM
>> Subject: RE: AOL shuts down Winamp for good
>>
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>> Typical!  Should I download the very latest version?  Is it fully
>> accessible with JAWS?  I always hesitate on the latest upgrades.
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:winamp4theblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Norma A.
>> Boge
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:26 PM
>> To: winamp4theblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: AOL shuts down Winamp for good
>>
>> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/11/after-15-years-of-llama-whipp
>> ing-aol
>> -shuts-down-winamp-for-good/
>>
>> After 15 years of llama-whipping, AOL shuts down Winamp for good
>> Former Winamp employees blame AOL mismanagement that began over a
>> decade ago.
>> by Cyrus Farivar - Nov 20 2013, 1:18pm CST AOL Winamp, the storied
>> MP3 player bought by AOL in June 1999 for over $80 million, is set to
>> shut down in exactly one month. According to a post that went live
>> Wednesday at 12:00 pm Eastern Time on the Winamp website:
>> Winamp.com and associated Web services will no longer be available
>> past December 20, 2013. Additionally, Winamp Media players will no
>> longer be available for download. Please download the latest version
>> before that date.
>> See release notes for latest improvements to this last release.
>> Thanks for supporting the Winamp community for over 15 years.
>> On Wednesday, Ars confirmed the announcement with Geno Yoham,
>> Winamp's general director since October 2008. He declined immediate
>> comment but said that he would try to arrange a future interview.
>> Ars wrote an extensive feature on the rise and fall of Winamp in June
>> 2012, detailing AOL's mismanagement of the property since its
>> dotcom-boom acquisition. As we reported then, Winamp continued to
>> receive updates and make a tiny amount of money for AOL throughout
>> the last 15 years. AOL even released the first Android version in
>> 2010 and a Mac version in 2011.
>> While the company has declined to release official figures, former
>> employees who worked on Winamp estimate its current revenue at around
>> $6 million annually. And Winamp still has an estimated user base of
>> millions worldwide, a small fraction of which live in the United
>> States. All of that appears to be water under the bridge now.
>> "There's no reason that Winamp couldn't be in the position that
>> iTunes is in today if not for a few layers of mismanagement by AOL
>> that started immediately upon acquisition," Rob Lord, the first hire
>> and first general manager of Winamp, told Ars in 2012.
>> Justin Frankel, Winamp's primary developer, seemed to concur in an
>> interview he gave to BetaNews. (He declined to be interviewed by Ars
>> in 2012.) "I'm always hoping that they will come around and realize
>> that they're killing [Winamp] and find a better way, but AOL always
>> seems too bogged down with all of their internal politics to get
>> anything done."
>> Ars is currently reaching out to former Winamp employees and
>> developers as this story develops. If that includes you, please get
>> in touch.
>>
>> UPDATE 1:57pm CT: Doug Serton, an AOL spokesperson, told Ars: "We
>> decline to comment beyond the note posted on the site earlier."
>>
>> Venture capitalist Josh Felser, who founded Spinner.com, another
>> online music property that was acquired by AOL at the same time as
>> Winamp, told
>> Ars: "Such a bummer. [AOL] had been trying to sell it for months. I
>> even looked at it. Spinner was shut down first. It's the end of Music
1.0"
>>
>> Felser added that he recently seriously considered buying Winamp from
>> AOL, too.
>>
>> "I spoke with the [corporate development] folks at AOL a couple times.
>> Even
>> reached out to [Winamp creator] Justin [Frankel] who was totally not
>> interested. I think we talked about $5 million with some trailing
>> equity."
>>
>> .Cyrus Farivar / Cyrus is the Senior Business Editor at Ars Technica,
>> and is also a radio producer and author. His first book, The Internet
>> of Elsewhere, was published in April 2011.
>>
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