Jack I don't know if I would even call that "indirect" filling a job opening but I believe it is a definite violation of 652.9 JP. -----Original Message----- From: wiaattorneys-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wiaattorneys-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mason, Paul (LABOR) Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 1:38 PM To: Gannon, Jack; Phyllis.Edwards@xxxxxxxxxxxx; wiaattorneys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wiaattorneys] Re: labor disputes Hi Jack - I think the temp agency situation would fit under the regulations since the employer is the recipient of the services. Hope all is well. Are you planning a trip to NYC to bring your daughter to college? Paul _____ From: Gannon, Jack [mailto:JGannon@xxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 12:46 PM To: Mason, Paul (LABOR); Phyllis.Edwards@xxxxxxxxxxxx; wiaattorneys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: [wiaattorneys] Re: labor disputes Another wrinkle on the issue raised by Phyllis re: referral in cases of strikes or lockouts. I had a question posed just today regarding a private temp agency placing a job order into our job matching system through which they are filling vacant positions with an employer in a lockout situation. I am assuming that this would fit into the "indirect" filling of the job opening category under 20 CFR 652.9. Any thoughts? John L. Gannon Indiana Department of Workforce Development 10 N. Senate Ave. Indianapolis, IN 46204 (317)232-7482 jgannon@xxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: wiaattorneys-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wiaattorneys-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mason, Paul (LABOR) Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 9:57 AM To: Phyllis.Edwards@xxxxxxxxxxxx; wiaattorneys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wiaattorneys] Re: labor disputes We were just asked this same question by a WIB that wants to work with an employer. I think to the extent the WIB is placing job orders in a State job bank operated under Wagner Peyser funding and thereby acting as an agent of the state, the regulations would apply. This raises the interesting question about the relationship between ES and WIA. -----Original Message----- From: wiaattorneys-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wiaattorneys-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Phyllis Edwards Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:20 AM To: wiaattorneys@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wiaattorneys] labor disputes Federal Employment Service law states that applicants are to be given notice of strikes or lockouts prior to being referred to an employer. (29 USCS §49j) The federal regs state that state offices are not to refer on job orders which will directly or indirectly aid in filling an opening that is vacant because a former occupant is on strike or has been locked out because of a labor dispute. It the goes on to include that a referral can be made for another position not on strike or lock out but notice of the labor dispute must be given. Aside for the fact that I haven't found any basis in the law for restricting the referral, the question has arisen as to whether this would apply to WIA programs. As yet I have not found anything in the WIA law. Any comments or suggestions? Thanks Phyllis A. Edwards ADWS/ Legal Associate General Counsel (501) 682-3154 phyllis.edwards@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Get your FREE personalized email signature at My Mail Signature! <http://www.mymailsignature.com/>