update: so far, the replies to my request for a list of the top 10 indie shops (I should have specified NYC) that can do idesign and coding, css, ajax, flash, and design, include: Huge Funny Garbage (with comments from satisfied and dissatisfied clients both) Watersquare ScribeStudio.Com Supernovainc keep it coming and i will update again thnx much to all Request Marketing, Inc. http://www.requestmarketing.com 917.797.8675 | cell laurie_kalmanson@xxxxxxxxx -- When out of office please set your subscription to VACATION MODE! Be sure to trim your posts and delete personal information (e.g. address and telephone numbers) if you do not want them in the public web archive. To unsubscribe send a blank message with unsubscribe in the subject to webproducers- request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx (and be sure to reply to the confirmation e-mail) Manage your subscripton (digest, vacation mode, unsubscribe) at http://webproducers.org/join.html