[webproducers] Re: Facebook
- From: "mark krawczuk" <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: webproducers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:53:59 -0400 (EDT)
One thing that might be driving some of the most current round of FaceBook
signups is this blog entry (June 24, 2007 by danah boyd) that made its
rounds across the blogosphere:
Viewing American class divisions through Facebook and MySpace
http://www.danah.org/papers/essays/ClassDivisions.html
In sum, she says deciding on one or the other is based on class divisions.
The lightning rod line is:
"A month ago, the military banned MySpace but not Facebook. This was a
very interesting move because the division in the military reflects the
division in high schools. Soldiers are on MySpace; officers are on
Facebook."
The whole essay is worth a look, especially for the great background on
the services.
- Mark
Andrea Hardison wrote:
> This is what I like about Myspace. I think FB is more
> for personal networks (even though myspace is too) but
> people definitely don't use FB for what you're
> describing below.
>
> I think Myspace is just better anyway.
>
>
> --- marj kleinman <marjk@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Another thing that's important to point out is that
>> there's a certain
>> marketing trend that's specific to MS--filmmakers
>> and musicians are still
>> creating MS pages for their films and music albums.
>> Maybe they're starting
>> to do this with FB, but I know that people make a MS
>> page for films when
>> they don't want to make a full Website and they can
>> decorate and design them
>> in a way that they probably can't yet on FB.
>>
>> Does anyone else know anything about this with
>> regard to FB?
>>
>>
>> On 7/16/07 10:57 AM, "Andrea Hardison"
>> <andreahardison@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> > Thanks for forwarding this article along.
>> >
>> > I too have noticed that I've received a lot more
>> > Facebook requests, etc. in the past 2 weeks than
>> ever.
>> > I was just talking about this with a couple of
>> friends
>> > of mine last week. I think the new API setup from
>> > Facebook is a good look.
>> >
>> > But personally, what is the difference between
>> > FaceBook and MySpace? They are all the same, yet
>> > another networking site launches and continues to
>> > grow, etc. I guess people just love the whole
>> social
>> > networking idea.
>> >
>> > I think FaceBook should have stayed within its
>> niche
>> > and focused on the college crowd. Why expand and
>> > become another MySpace??
>> >
>> > Also, sites like FaceBook and MySpace are really
>> good
>> > and assisting with any type of viral marketing
>> > campaigns you have.
>> >
>> > My .02
>> >
>> >
>> > --- David Tomere <dtomere@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Here's a link to an article today about Facebook.
>> >> It's increased
>> >> membership by 20% since May (to 30 mil). The
>> point
>> >> of the article is
>> >> that Facebook has a privacy advantage over, say,
>> >> MySpace:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070715/tc_nm/facebook_privacy_dc_1;_ylt=AuGSfcXHY
>> > HPihNk7u0axT_nEHX0V
>> >>
>> >> But what am I doing on Facebook? I'm over 40 and
>> >> sending out Zombie
>> >> bites to build a zombie army. But with the right
>> >> workgroup apps, FB
>> >> could end up being what Linked-In wants to be.
>> >>
>> >> _d
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> At 04:51 PM 07/15/2007, you wrote:
>> >>> I guess I am in the 20 somethings category, and
>> an
>> >> AVID user of
>> >>> Facebook (not so much MySpace) so this
>> conversation
>> >> is very
>> >>> interesting because I didn't think the FB
>> >> phenomenon would seem so
>> >>> strange to anyone.
>> >>>
>> >>> The reason it has taken off is because it
>> started
>> >> as a service to keep
>> >>> in touch with college friends (people who went
>> to
>> >> school in the US).
>> >>> So people felt more of a connection. Recently
>> they
>> >> started developing
>> >>> open source apps to add to facebook. Most of
>> them
>> >> are quite useless,
>> >>> to be honest.
>> >>>
>> >>> I have personally used it for marketing as well
>> and
>> >> it wroks great!
>> >>> It's not shady like MySpace. You have the
>> leverage
>> >> for editing privacy
>> >>> settings for every single little item displayed.
>> >> It's great!
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On 15/07/07, marj kleinman <marjk@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>> WOM (word of mouth) among the 20
>> >> somethings...the other ones are Tagged and
>> >>>> Twitter. There are far too many. Flickr is also
>> >> seen as a social networking
>> >>>> site as is Meet Up and OKCupid.
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On 7/15/07 3:09 PM,
>> "sharongreenfield@xxxxxxxxx"
>> >>>> <sharongreenfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Much as I have a FaceBook account that I
>> >> rarely use, as I just don't
>> >>>>> have the energy and time, I still want to pay
>> >> attention to this.
>> >>>>> This seems to be a great way to watch how to
>> >> market; are they doing
>> >>>>> all of this virally? Did they pick out a
>> >> couple hundred or so top
>> >>>>> FB'ers and pay em to go wild? Did they give
>> >> top developers a personal
>> >>>>> schmooze-n-look at the API kind of party? I
>> >> really agree FB seems to
>> >>>>> be reaching a critical mass, but HOW did it
>> >> happen, is of interest to
>> >>>>> me.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Jul 14, 2007, at 1:56 PM, marj kleinman
>> >> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> Already happening. Apparently, when teens
>> >> younger sisters started
>> >>>>>> joining
>> >>>>>> MS, they started joining FB. Also, it's a
>> >> much better application/
>> >>>>>> site. Much
>> >>>>>> more interactivity/better design.
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> On 7/14/07 4:18 PM, "Steven Hubert"
>> >> <steven.hubert@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> I totally agree with you about facebook. I
>> >> have been getting
>> >>>>>>> multiple friend
>> >>>>>>> requests every week for the last few weeks.
>> >> Previously to that I
>> >>>>>>> very rarely
>> >>>>>>> got invites. Maybe opening up the API really
>> >> made a difference and
>> >>>>>>> people
>> >>>>>>> are joining up. Personally I can't stand
>> >> facebook. You need to
>> >>>>>>> have ALOT of
>> >>>>>>> free time to keep up to date with that.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Steve
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On 7/14/07, David Tomere
>> >> <dtomere@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Has anyone else noticed that Facebook seems
>> >> to be reaching critical
>> >>>>>>>> mass? I
>> >>>>>>>> got three Facebook invitations this week
>> >> from unconnected
>> >>>>>>>> friends, and my
>> >>>>>>>> first last week. Is Facebook going to be
>> >> the new MySpace? It
>> >>>>>>>> seems to be
>> >>>>>>>> trying to shake off its teenybopper
>> >> origins.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> PS - Anyone going to be in Dusseldorf first
>> >> 2 weeks in Aug?
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> --
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>> >>>>>>>>
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