Dear Sir, If you want to insert your processing value-add in the Windows Vista System Effects infrastructure there are two approved methods: One is to install the effects through a 3rd party audio device vendor's INF. This means you have to sell your product to the IHV and they include it in their offering. The second method is to use your own INF and include one of the two class driver INFs in yours. Effectively the user will replace the 3rd party USB Audio or HD Audio driver with the class driver and your value-add will load on top of the class driver. Any other approach to loading components into the System Effect infrastructure is strongly discouraged and will not be signed by Microsoft and can break at any time through updates to the OS from Windows Update. The System Effect infrastructure is designed to improve transparency, discoverability and control over the components in the streaming pipeline for users and applications and is not a new filter driver model. Sincerely, Hakon Strande | Windows Sound Team PM -----Original Message----- From: wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:wdmaudiodev-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chunk Systems Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 11:47 PM To: wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [wdmaudiodev] Software-only GFX APO Hi all, I'm trying to figure out whether its possible to create a software-only GFX APO so that a customer can download and install a software package which affects all audio coming out of the machine. Would it feasible to create an install program which: 1. registers a new APO dll. 2. creates or overwrites the following registry key with the CLSID of the new APO: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\MMDevices\Audio\Render\<e ndpo int>\FxProperties\d04e05a6-594b-4fb6-a80d-01af5eed7d1d},2 3. creates or overwrites the following registry key with the CLSID of the new property page: HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\MMDevices\Audio\Render\<e ndpo int>\FxProperties\d04e05a6-594b-4fb6-a80d-01af5eed7d1d},3 4. the original APO calls through to whatever APO was originally installed and then applies its effect afterwards. Now, I realise that the APO system is designed for IHVs, but does anybody have any comments on the feasibility of this approach? On a related question, Microsoft's sysfx.doc document says: Note: The INF does not modify the FXProperties registry key directly. Instead, it modifies the FX key as shown in the preceding example, and the value is then migrated to the FXProperties key in the MMDevice section. In other words, at some point, the APO settings from HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\DeviceClasses\... to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\MMDevices\... Is anybody able to explain when or how this migration takes place, and which keys are migrated? Any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Richard Cartwright Chunk Systems http://www.chunksystems.com ****************** WDMAUDIODEV addresses: Post message: mailto:wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe: mailto:wdmaudiodev-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe Unsubscribe: mailto:wdmaudiodev-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe Moderator: mailto:wdmaudiodev-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx URL to WDMAUDIODEV page: http://www.wdmaudiodev.com/ ****************** WDMAUDIODEV addresses: Post message: mailto:wdmaudiodev@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subscribe: mailto:wdmaudiodev-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=subscribe Unsubscribe: mailto:wdmaudiodev-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe Moderator: mailto:wdmaudiodev-moderators@xxxxxxxxxxxxx URL to WDMAUDIODEV page: http://www.wdmaudiodev.com/