I downloaded and installed the numeric and pygame again. The flames file works now! Everything else seems to behave the same. -- Asif Ladak Andrew Straw <andrew.straw@adela To: visionegg@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ide.edu.au> cc: Sent by: Subject: [visionegg] Re: New User, Seg Fault visionegg-bounce@fr eelists.org 09/18/2003 07:39 AM Please respond to visionegg I just discovered that there was a mismatch between the Windows installers listed on the Vision Egg page for the particular versions of Numeric and pygame. I've updated the webpage for the correct version of pygame: http://www.visionegg.org/install-windows-details.html This might have something to do with the problem Asif is experiencing. Cheers! Andrew (See attached file: PGP.sig)