Hi everyone, I have a few questions related to keyboard input, and I would greatly appreciate any comments on the matter. I apologize if this discussion is redundant but I have looked through the archives available here and not all this ground has been covered before. Does anyone know of a way to directly poll the keyboard, independent of the event manager, in python? I've looked into Pygame and SDL and I don't think there's anything there that does this. The best candidates are pygame.key.get_pressed() and SDL_GetKeyState(), and after examining the source code for these commands I don't believe they do what I'm looking to do. The former actually wraps the latter, which returns the state of the keyboard at the last call to SDL_PumpEvents(). So, it would seem that this function is reliant on the event manager, after all. The command for doing this in Psychophysics Toolbox is KbCheck, which actually employs a different strategy for each platform. On Win32 machines, for example, it calls GetAsyncKeyState(), a Win32 api function. On MacOS classic, it uses a procedure called GetKeys. The Mac OSX version of the software appears to rely solely on the USB HID libraries. I can and will write my own module for python to do this, if needed, but it would be nice if something like this already existed. The USB 1 ms frame problem is not a bother to me, so I won't mind too much if I'm limited to only USB keyboards. In other words, if there's something out there for python that will allow me to poll the state of a USB keyboard whenever I want (independent of the EM), that would make me happy. I have not been able to locate anything like this, so far. On the other hand, perhaps I'm worried about nothing and the event manager isn't a problem. On the major platforms, does the event manager add any substantial wait time when a.) the hardware is modern and fast, and b.) an absolute minimum number of competing processes are running? Thanks for your input! Regards, Tim Vickery ====================================== The Vision Egg mailing list Archives: //www.freelists.org/archives/visionegg Website: http://www.visionegg.org/mailinglist.html