Hi Juan. Yes, they are aware of this solution, but I don't think they would
be interested in using it. I have had conference calls with them and Tom in
the past and they don't seem very interested in anything outside of what
they have. This is for many reasons like being comfortable with the
keystrokes they have, being uneasy with any other solution , plus there's a
bit of braile support, also it's in German. The previous work done with
magix has been with these users, so there's history there. I get the feeling
that Samplitude access has kind of entered the arena and taken a leak on
their parade, but just to compare the 2, Samplitude Access is currently
giving around 85 to 90% access, this other solution is around the 10/15%
mark. Steve.
-----Original Message-----
From: Juan Mojena
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 7:30 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] RE: [vipaudioaccess] Re: [vipaudioaccess] RE:
[vipaudioaccess] Fw: One forum for all / Ein Forum für alle
Hi Steve
I agree with you. We must all stick together. Does Manfred know just how
many of us are there? Is the other solution Jaws based? Any chance of
showing the other party how our solution workds and having them join us?
Juan
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From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Spamer
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 2:07 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Re: [vipaudioaccess] RE: [vipaudioaccess] Fw: One
forum for all / Ein Forum für alle
Thanks Len, steve.
From: Len Viljoen <mailto:len@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 5:07 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] RE: [vipaudioaccess] Fw: One forum for all / Ein
Forum für alle
Like the idea steve. It has my full support and I’ll continue to contribute
wherever I can. I do believe we as the samplitude access community should
stick together and first discuss requests and problems amongst ourselves
before posting to that forum. Just my thought.
cheers
From: vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:vipaudioaccess-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve Spamer
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 7:00 PM
To: vipaudioaccess@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [vipaudioaccess] Fw: One forum for all / Ein Forum für alle
Ok, I’ve received this from Tom Wolfe, who has been my accessibility contact
at Magix. Understandably, I think he is being pushed and pulled in different
directions by a number of users who require access to their products...and I’m
probably one of them . Anyway, I applaud this move by Magix to create a
focal point for all VIP users, whether it’s with their own personal solution
or not.
It’s obviously been made in order to make his life easier and to optimise
any time he has. This way he should be able to identify and target issues
much easier, rather than trying to please different people who are using
different solutions., but where does this leave us? Well, personally I
think this is a very good move if the users involved can actually agree and
work together on solutions. To make you aware, there is at least one other
solution being used in Germany, but it is nothing like Samplitude Access at
all. users of this solution will obviously want a voice, but in my
experience, it’s quite a loud one . So, what I’m getting at, is Samplitude
Access will continue regardless of any other solution, it won’t incorporate
other solutions, unless it was for the benefit of the project. The aim with
magix is to give them feedback on the current access, what needs doing and
how that is implemented...and Samplitude Access is in the very best place to
be the vehicle for that, IMO, that isn’t in question at all.
So, I would hope we still continue down the path we’re set on and that we
stick together as a community, rather than split off and start requesting
and watering down any accessibility voiced to Magix. We can work together
for the best outcome and make our voices heard as 1 united community. I can
envisage some pretty interesting requests from other solutions, but I would
hope that Tom can filter down any requests into something that can be used
across the board, rather than being specifically for 1 solution.
Interesting times for sure and I’d be interested to hear what you think.
Cheers Steve.
From: ThomasWolfe
Sent: Friday, November 11, 2016 3:14 PM
To: Steve Spamer <mailto:stevespamer68@xxxxxxxxx> ; Manfred Jaklin
<mailto:mjaklin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; patrick.zuendel@xxxxxx
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Subject: Re: One forum for all / Ein Forum für alle
This mail is in english, please read my last mail for the german version
Diese Mail ist in english, bitte lesen sie meine letzte mail für die
deutsche Version
Hello,
my name is Thomas Wolf, some of you already know me as Tom. I am the contact
person and the interface of the requests for accessiblility into Samplitude
development team. Together with you I want to significantly improve access
to Samplitude and Sequoia.
To achieve this I would like to have a networking of all of you, because in
the last months new groups or mailing lists approached to me, mutually knew
nothing of each other and then possibly even have been working on their own
solutionsthat maybe was already there and then not work consistently.
This is an important thing, which we all have to work together, so I ask you
to follow me into the Accessibility Forum just "newly" created. I understand
that mailing lists are sometimes easier to use, but I would hope that we all
work together to find their way to this forum.
the address is: http://support2.magix.net/boards/samplitude/
Anyone can create an account because the captcha is in contrast to the trial
downloads audio capable ;-) PS: at the trial downloads captcha I care soon.
There is a new category: "Accessibility / Barrierefreiheit"
In it there are three forums:
- General Discussions / Allgemeine Themen
- Feature Requests / Feature-Anfrage
- Bugreports / Fehlerberichte
In the three forums please german and english should be spoken, so it does
not occur two different worlds. I will be active in the forums. I also ask
the admins of mailing lists to be active there and perhaps really to lay the
communication there.
I am also willing to adjust threads yet, perhaps divided into various screen
reader, I'm open to suggestions.
Why do I do this? I would like to be there for all, but I really can not
afford this, if there are many different places. Someone comes then too
short, and nobody wants that. I really can be effective only in one place.
Please respect that. The forum is the right place, i think. Although I am
now logged in mailing lists, I can really only be active in the forum.
Anything else would be only temporary and would in the long run not be a
profit. But with the forum we can actually create all together a platform
that helps everyone. Please share this information with any one you know,
carry the forum out further in all mailing lists and groups in which you are
active.
"Great things are done together" - With this sentence i finish this post and
wish you a nice weekend.
greetings from Dresden
Tom
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