[vicsireland] Re: internet radio picking a player

  • From: "Flor Lynch" <florlync@xxxxxx>
  • To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 20:15:05 -0000

Paul,

Another player should not open on a real-audio stream even if it is the 
'default' and RealPlayer is not.  The notion of a default player is just 
notional rather than factual.  I have chosen Windows media Player to play 
all of the file types it can play, because I like the way it can speed up 
mp3's - podcasts, etc.  However, Winamp plays many more file-types, and also 
plays stream that windows media Player cannot; so it is useful backup.  I 
have RealPlayer playing only real audio and its other proprietary file 
types.  Again, RealPlayer can play a good many file-types, likely more than 
windows Media Player.  I know there's a way of choosing a default player 
(like you would choose a default program for an action) using 'program 
access and defaults'; but for now I've forgotten how you do this.  In a way, 
each player is competing with the other, and the other then, in later 
iterations, may try to prevent the competition from playing its files by 
making some subtle change in its software and how it handles files.  (Real 
networks have don this, to prevent winamp from playing real audio files. 
then, the Winamp developers came back with another shot at it.  That's how 
it goes. - C'est la vie.)  Happy listening!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Paul Halligan" <tigerone@xxxxxxxxxx>
To: <vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 7:50 PM
Subject: [vicsireland] Re: internet radio picking a player


Blankhi tony
i have the 3 players installed, real, wmp and winamp.
whenever i go to a station , as in your example that uses real then the 
station just opens in that player. almost as if it overrides the default.
otherwise when in  mikes world radio the list of stations sometimes use both 
real and wmp, but as you say not always.
i think maybe flor could throw a little light on the subject as to whether a 
station that uses real opens with it even if another player is the default.
as i say i have the 3 players installed and the one that is needed just 
'kicks in' .....i am totally lost at this stage as to which of them is now 
my default!
any further Flor?
regards
Paul H
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tony Sweeney
  To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 3:56 PM
  Subject: [vicsireland] Re: internet radio picking a player


  Hi Paul,

  I think it was step 6 where I was getting a little woolly!

  I had problems with accsessing stations on that site before and thought 
that it must be something I was doing wrong!

  One of course doesn't select a player say from a drop-down or something 
but when you enter on a station link that station should in theory at any 
rate open?

  Now I do know that it is advisable to install all of the 3 major players 
to enable stations to play!

  Trust I am good so far!

  I think that I may have a problem in the way that my system is configured!

  Here's just one question!

  Say I have WMP as my default player and say I want to play a Beeb station 
which I think uses Real Player or Alternative, will the BBC station play in 
Real Player say, although I have WMP as my default player.

  In other words is it a disadvantage sometimes to have one player or others 
as default.

  Any other commentss or suggestions from you or others gratefully 
appreciated.

  Thanks,

  Tony.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: Paul Halligan
    To: vicsireland@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 11:26 AM
    Subject: [vicsireland] internet radio picking a player


    hi tony and folks

    in the tutorial i posted on recording internet radio i mentioned that 
some stations use real player and some use windows media player.
    using the instructions in the tutorial for the website mentioned will 
let you identify which stations use which player.
    personally i have both real player and windows media player installed to 
widen my choice of stations i can play but as far as i can figure if a 
station uses real player and you only have wmp then you are snookered!

    below are the steps in the tutorial that are relevant to this question

    Keep pressing your down arrow until you come to the station you want, in 
our example radio one extra.

    6 when you get to the station you will hear the following

    First the station name

    Second the location of the station

    Third jaws will say Graphic and then the player you can use i.e. if it 
says graphic real audio you can use real player to play and record the 
station.

    If jaws says graphic and windows media player you can use that one and 
so on

    Note

    that if jaws announces map then the station will open in real player 
too.

    7 now we wanted radio one extra in Dublin and have got to the station 
name

    Arrow down again and we hear Dublin, its location

    Arrow down again and we hear graphic real audio which means the station 
can be played through real player

    arrow down again you will hear jaws say graphic windows media but we 
want to arrow down past this

    arrow again and jaws says link 32 kbps this is the link to open and 
listen to the station

    8 Press enter and the station opens in real player after a few seconds. 
Be patient





    i use the mikesworldradio site because it is not so tricky to navigate. 
there are numerous sites like shoutcast.com

    or radio365 which you might find more or less easier to navigate.

    hope that clears things a little, but contact me either on list or 
offlist tigerone@xxxxxxxxxx

    if you run into any other glitchs, god knows it took me 3 years to get 
my head around it.

    regards

    Paul H

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