Here are some thoughts about how to modulate in 22-TET, especially with=20 Paul Erlich's decatonic scales. (Recently there was a thread in the=20 newsgroup rec.music.theory - but Paul insisted that I write into this group= , so=20 here I am.) In rec.music.theory, Dr. Matt used the word "modulatory topology" - a reall= y=20 great word ! It was not a priori clear what the word means, though - I give= an=20 ad-hoc definition here.=20 Topology deals with "neighbourhoods" and "distances", and in case of=20 music, "modulatory topology" or "distance between tonalities" can e.g. mean= =20 how easily a modulation between the tonalities goes or how dramatic it=20 sounds (C major and G major should have a smaller "distance" than C major=20 and E major or C major and Gb major.) A very simple criterion for a distance between tonalities is how many chord= s=20 they have in common. Such chords are candidates to use in the "neutral=20 phase" of a modulation (the first phase according to Sch=F6nberg's modulati= on=20 model), moreover, there is overall less change (and hence less surprise and= =20 dramatics) when the tonality changes In case of the diatonic scale in 12-TET, two tonalities have the more chord= s=20 in common the closer they are along the circle of fifths. Common chords=20 exist for a distance of maximally 2 fifths in either direction, the largest= =20 intersection of 4 common chords being reached by a distance of one fifth.=20 Hence, the circle of fifths can be seen as a natural visualization of the=20 "modulatory topology" of the diatonic triad system. Now, how about ET22? All the concepts (they are, after all, quite simple, n= ot=20 to say trivial) can be applied directly. I did it for Paul Erlich's pentach= ordal=20 decatonic scale - with a little surprising result! Two transposes of the decatonic major scale at the distance of fifth (which= in=20 ET 22 contains 13 steps) have - exactly like in case of the diatonic scale = in=20 12-TET - 4 chords in common. However, this is not the maximum! The=20 maximum of 6 common chords is reached by distances of 2 (half tone) OR=20 11 steps (tritone). Hence the diagram for the modulatory topology of the=20 pentachordal decatonic scale in ET22 is not a circle of fifths, but a 2- dimensional structure, best visualized as two concentric circles of 11 poin= ts=20 each (the half tone steps) with radial connections between the inner to the= =20 outer (the tritone steps). An interesting coincidence is that 2 and 11 happen to be the prime numbers= =20 that compose 22, and the modulatory topology as above is also a=20 visualization of the decomposition of Z22 into Z2xZ11. A coincidence it is = -=20 you can create whatever topology you like if you choose the basic chords=20 appropriately. Any one of the tuning punks ever thought about this or even used it? Hans Straub ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/wHYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: tuning-math-unsubscribe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx =20 Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/=20 ____________________________________________________________ To learn how to configure this list via e-mail (subscribe, unsubscribe, etc.), send a message to listar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the subject line "info tuning-math". Or visit the website: < //www.freelists.org/list/tuning-math > .