Chuck the files you mentioned were there. Now I know I can delete them. For all the other info on that message I am going to make a copy to put in my help files. I know I will need it. As for the bifocals. I wear them too. I have to keep my chair about 8 inches higher than the normal person has theirs. That makes me look down on the screen instead of looking up. Try it. It might help. Hey Clarence you helped also and thanks. Juanita www.freelists.org/webpage/triadtechtalk UNSUBSCRIBE by sending email to triadtechtalk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with unsubscribe in the Subject field. To VIEW/CHANGE your subscription status go to //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi