Larry, your first photo looks like an Eupithecia of some sort but I don't see a match, at least not on the live plates. I agree with your Elachista irrorata and Copivaleria grotei id's. Merrill On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 8:37 PM, Larry McDaniel <larrycmcd@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote: > Here's a few I could use help with. > > Larry McDaniel > Johnson City, TN > -- J. Merrill Lynch Echo Valley Farm Watauga County, NC Elevation: 3,400 feet