I don't know if you have been exposed to the term fovea before, so in geometrids, it is a swollen spot devoid of scales near the base of the forewing: fovea is described in the glossary as a depression or pit, but in geos, it is a bare swollen or depressed spot just beyond the frenulum (male) or acanthi (female) (the spine(s) at the base of the hind wing which hooks the wings together with the forewing retinaculum (forewing holding structure) when in flight.... In your specimen I did not see the fovea on the forewing. Maybe I just missed it. BUCK -----Original Message----- From: "buggybuck" <buggybuck@xxxxxxx> To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 14:46:41 -0400 Subject: [tn-moths] Re: Macaria help needed This does look like an example of the late spring brood of the species as discussed by DC Ferguson in Mona fascicle 17.2 on page 193, as this species has several morphotypes depending upon brood, but to be sure, you need a spread specimen so you can see the fovea at the base of the forewing which is diagnostic for this species of Macaria...BUCK -----Original Message----- From: kjchilds <kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx> To: TN-Moths <tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ncsc-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:00:03 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [tn-moths] Macaria help needed I think this may be 6335 Macaria aequiferaria but I'd like a second opinion. Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://tinyurl.com/FinishFlagFarmsMoths http://www.finishflagfarms.com