The last I heard is that this species can't be ID'd from a photo. Wingspan measurements can help but microscopic examination of the mouth parts or genetalia are necessary for a definite ID. I think for an FOY that at least we'd need wing measurements. http://bugguide.net/node/view/3967 Ken Childs Henderson, TN Chester County http://www.finishflagfarms.com ________________________________ From: DJ Stanley <stanleydj@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: tn-moths@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 12:20:41 PM Subject: [tn-moths] 6/12/2010 Cumberland County - ? Would anyone agree with the ID of Grape Leaffolder Moth (Desmia funeralis) on these 2 photos?