Thanks to all who responded. There were several personal email responses, so I'll summarize them for the group. All of the respondents argued for Clouded Skipper or Little Glassywing, or both. The Little Glassywing proponents pointed to the white patch below the antennal club, citing Glassberg's description. The Clouded Skipper proponents based their identification mainly on the size and shape of the size and shape of the FW cell spot; most felt that my photo showed it being smaller and more rounded than the typical large square/rectangular cell spot of the Little Glassywing. The flight period was mentioned, too; the peak of the fall Clouded Skipper flight is later than that of the Little Glassywing. Also, it appears that the edge of the "dusted" area is barely discernable on the underside of the FW, near the apex. Finally, overall shape was mentioned. Regarding the white patch on the below the antennal club, I see that Glassberg's entry on the Little Glassywing (in BTB) lists only the Dun Skipper and Northern Broken-dash as similar species, at least explicitly. I wonder if the antenna characteristic was intended only as a means of distinguishing among these three. Further, I see that one of Glassberg's photos of the Clouded Skipper (Plate 64, lower right corner) appears to show a white sub-club patch. Thanks again to all who responded. Doug Bruce Oak Ridge, TN Anderson Co. ----- Original Message ----- From: Doug Bruce To: TN Butterflies Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 2:04 PM Subject: [TN-Butterflies] Skipper ID? There was so much snow on the roads this morning that my workplace closed. So I braced myself with a cup of hot chocolate and resolutely began reviewing this season's ambiguous skipper photos. Here's one that might not be impossible. The attached photos were shot at the Sink Mountain Recreation Area, along Watauga Lake in Johnson County, on October 9, 2010. Both photos are of the same individual. Does anyone want to venture an ID? Maybe Clouded Skipper? Thanks, Doug Bruce Oak Ridge, TN Anderson Co.