I forget where I read it, but if I remember correctly, our subspecies of Appalachian Brown has that double spot on the hindwing and stronger spots on the forewing than the subspecies shown in Glassberg's Butterflies through Binoculars. Look at the Appalachian Brown photo in Kenn Kaufman's Butterflies of North America, it looks like your specimen. The less jagged postmedian and basal lines below, and the pattern of whitish around the forewing spots, are diagnostic. Don Holt Johnson City, TN -----Original Message----- From: Harold Howell <howellh2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: TN Butterflies <TN-Butterflies@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sun, Jul 18, 2010 11:16 pm Subject: [TN-Butterflies] Appalachian Brown? Today Doug Bruce and I visited Hancock County searching for butterflies and ragonflies. We found this specimen in the wooded area along the stream hich forms the margin of a large open grassy picnic area. We have been nable to say exactly what species it really is.. Five photos are posted ere: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hsquare/4806762241/ We have labeled it as an Appalachian Brown, but the forewing eye-spots look ore like a "Smoky" Eyed Brown, and the bottom eye-spot is a double rather han a single. We did not think it is an Eyed Brown because the hindwing asal line is straight, and we are out of the published range of this pecies. We did not think it a Pearly-Eye because it is too small and does ot have the white lines surrounding the eye-spots on both wings. Any comments will be appreciated. Harold Howell utledge, Grainger County, TN he FAQ can be found by logging in at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=tn-butterflies Please report any abuse or questions about this list to kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx Users can unsubscribe from this list by sending an email to tn-butterflies-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ith 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. -----Original Message----- From: Harold Howell <howellh2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: TN Butterflies <TN-Butterflies@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sun, Jul 18, 2010 11:16 pm Subject: [TN-Butterflies] Appalachian Brown? Today Doug Bruce and I visited Hancock County searching for butterflies and ragonflies. We found this specimen in the wooded area along the stream hich forms the margin of a large open grassy picnic area. We have been nable to say exactly what species it really is.. Five photos are posted ere: http://www.flickr.com/photos/hsquare/4806762241/ We have labeled it as an Appalachian Brown, but the forewing eye-spots look ore like a "Smoky" Eyed Brown, and the bottom eye-spot is a double rather han a single. We did not think it is an Eyed Brown because the hindwing asal line is straight, and we are out of the published range of this pecies. We did not think it a Pearly-Eye because it is too small and does ot have the white lines surrounding the eye-spots on both wings. Any comments will be appreciated. Harold Howell utledge, Grainger County, TN he FAQ can be found by logging in at //www.freelists.org/cgi-bin/lsg2.cgi/l=tn-butterflies Please report any abuse or questions about this list to kjchilds@xxxxxxxxx Users can unsubscribe from this list by sending an email to tn-butterflies-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ith 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field.