I appreciate all the interest and postings - thought I might hit a nerve. I am dubious that habitat change is the major factor in the quail population plunge and equally skeptical that hunting pressure is playing a major role though it can't help the situation. Something else is going on and the quail seem to be paralleling the Loggerhead Shrike shrinkage (pun intended) at least around here. There is no shortage of shrike habitat, no hunting, just a marked disappearance of shrikes, for no apparent reason. It just seems to me that if TWRA is trying to manage wildlife populations, and a species is in decline for whatever reason, continuing to harvest individuals by hunting is nonsensical. I can see a lot more reason to have an open season on Sandhill Cranes which have a non-threatened and increasing population (I don't favor this), than continuing to hunt a species which clearly has undergone a rapid fall in numbers. One of the major benefits of all the various bird counts we all participate in is to monitor populations. If the data is available but ignored, what is the point of identifying these trends?? When several years ago, the pothole duck populations fell, there were changes in hunting seasons, bag limits, etc. All the National Wildlife Refuges in the state were either closed or had drastic restrictions on winter access. Why not the same logic with the quail?? Seems like a no-brainer, unless it is blocked by the hunting lobbies. Cheers Terry Witt Murfreesboro Tn =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Assistant Moderator Andy Jones Cleveland, OH ------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Dave Worley Rosedale, VA __________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARCHIVES TN-Bird Net Archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/tn-bird/ MAP RESOURCES Tenn.Counties Map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/tennessee3.gif Aerial photos to complement google maps http://local.live.com _____________________________________________________________