Wallace, Thanks for posting this. There are some important lessons in this = ongoing dialog for all of us, since security at some of our favorite birding = places in Tennessee (e.g., TVA steam plants, TVA and Corps of Engineers dams, Sharp's Ridge in Knoxville) has been increased in the last 3 years. = While we haven't permanently lost access to many areas in TN that were = previously open to the public, knowing how this issue is being addressed elsewhere = can help us if we face similar situations here. Chuck Nicholson Norris, TN =20 -----Original Message----- From: tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tn-bird-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] = On Behalf Of Wallace Coffey Sent: Friday, March 25, 2005 1:52 PM To: TN-birds Subject: [TN-Bird] MUST READ FOR BIRDERS TN-Birders: The following is a report on today's meeting in Eastern Virginia dealing with countinued birding access at the Chesapeake Bay-Bridge Tunnel. The three most important birding islands are proposed for closure to birders = and others June 1 in response to homeland defense security issues. =20 This is more than an eye-opener of what is on the horizon for all of us = one way or another. The birding community has pulled togehter an impressive effort. Individual self-serving agendas have been set aside so strong = and objective solutions may be found. =20 The Virginia people are handling a challenge openly and in a strong and structured way. Thye are demonstrating public communication skills. This speaks well for teamwork, unselfishness, focus and understanding everyone's rights to know and to have abundant information. =20 ------------------ BEGIN FORWARD------------------------------ From: VA-Bird listserv The hour-and-a-half initial meeting this morning between representatives = of=20 the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel Commission (Chair Kellam; Commissioner=20 Collins; Commissioner Buckle), CBBT Security (Chief Pruitt), CBBT Public Relations=20 (Ms. Smith), and five birding/conservation groups (CVWO: Bob Ake; VSO: = Teta=20 Kain; CCB: Mitchell Byrd; VDGIF: David Whitehurst; ABA: myself) went smoothly. It=20 was designed as a small meeting purposely, so that everyone would have a = chance to air views and ideas about how birders might continue to enjoy = the=20 privilege of birding the three northern islands but within a new dispensation that=20 would satisfy concerns about security. The old method - to present a = letter or=20 fax, with license and registration of the driver only - is clearly off = the=20 table. If a protocol for continued access is possible, it will = apparently not=20 be as flawed, from a security standpoint, as that one. The bird/conservation group, after listening to the genesis of the = decision=20 to rescind the privilege made last month from Chief Pruitt and Chair = Kellam, presented a page-long list of ideas specifically designed to satisfy concerns=20 about security but also to continue daily access to the full perimeter = of the=20 islands, such as we enjoy now. Many of these ideas came from = contributors via=20 this listserve (many thanks); others came from highly placed officials = in=20 Homeland Security, the State Department, the private security sector, = and the=20 Transportation Safety Administration (thanks to those people as well). = The=20 Northern Virginia crowd really has an impressive set of connections to = such people,=20 as well as to state and national political figures and their aids; = thanks to all of you who pulled strings quietly to raise this matter, which = Governor=20 Warner and other key figures are now aware of. It was heartening that both Commissioner Buckle and Commissioner Collins = asked clear, helpful questions about what specifically we like to do on = the=20 islands and what value it has for us, both as hobbyists and as conservationists. Dav id Whitehurst also enlightened them about the ecotouristic context as well. =20 Both commissioners seemed very much to understand our interests here by = the=20 end of the meeting. In coming weeks, we need to make sure that all = other=20 commissioners do as well. The meeting concluded at about 11:40, and the next meeting of this group = is=20 set for 21 April. =20 In the mean time, the CBBT people will be interviewing security people = at=20 other sensitive facilities in Virginia about their procedures for = permitting access. For our part, the bird/conservation people are charged with presenting,=20 in advance of the next meeting, a written plan for access, or set of = plans,=20 that we believe would satisfy the imperative of security on the northern three=20 islands. We have already made great headway in defining, in general terms, what = the=20 procedures in such a plan might be, with the help in particular of = Homeland=20 Security people, who are most familiar with threat scenarios for the northern=20 three islands. What we will have to do now is to flesh out our outline = with concrete suggestions: computer software used in identifying people or maintaining a=20 database of permitees; hardware/software used in communicating with = officers in the field; search procedures and the equipment and training required = for=20 their implementation; and so forth. This task will require more discussion with local law enforcement=20 representatives, military security personnel, and airport security specialists, who will=20 have the most up-to-date information on how to administer a program that = oversees access to sensitive areas. =20 We do not yet see a light at the end of this tunnel, as it were, but we = were given no reason to assume that the CBBT people have ruled out the possibility=20 of our maintaining some form of access past 1 June 2005 (the official = end of the birding program as of today). The next full Commission meeting is = 11 May,=20 at which time it's expected that there will be a vote on the matter. If = anyone reading this works in the technical end of law enforcement, or is friendly=20 with someone who does and who might be willing to advise a group of bird/CBBT=20 people on both methods and technology, we'd love to hear from them! Our mood is still optimistic. While I believe that it's possible to = craft a solution we're all happy with, our challenge is to convince Security = folks=20 that it will be both efficient and effective. To that end, I would ask, humbly=20 and with no authority whatsoever, on the part of the people working on = this=20 problem that we as a birding community refrain from side-conversations = with=20 Security personnel about this matter for the next six weeks or so. This = is simply=20 so that the people working to formulate a plan for all of us that would permit=20 the greatest amount of security AND freedom for birding not be = undermined. =20 It is easy in particular for lower-ranking officers to confuse what they hear=20 from birders on the CBBT with what they're hearing from superiors and = around water coolers, and at this critical time we do not want to send mixed messages. =20 It's fine to keep birding as we've always done, for now, but it's best = not to=20 try to sell dozens of different versions of access scenarios in an=20 uncoordinated fashion - this cannot but muddy the waters. Thanks again to all for helping out. We'll post on this again after the next=20 meeting. =20 Best Ned Brinkley Cape Charles, VA --------------------------------END FORWARD-------------------------- = posted to TN-Birds by Wallace Coffey Bristol, TN, Sullivan Co. =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3DNOTES TO = SUBSCRIBER=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: = tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----------------------------------------------------=20 To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society=20 Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. =20 Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Topographical = Maps located at http://topozone.com/find.asp * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to sign your messages with first and last name, city (town) and state abbreviation. ----------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------- To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. 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