TN-birders, Dollyann and I found a dark ibis at Eagle Bend fish hatchery in Anderson County yesterday afternoon. Initially I called it a Glossy, but I need to re-state that as a dark ibis. The identification of juveniles of Glossy and White-faced is notoriously difficult. After Chris Sloan reminded me of this, I looked up some reference material at home and on the internet. I could not find a good photo of a juvenile White-faced on the internet, but I only checked a couple of sources. I was able to get a decent digi-photo of the Eagle Bend bird and I have already sent it to someone in New York to look at for his opinion. While the books I looked at said the ID of these juveniles is difficult, it did NOT say it was impossible. I also sent a copy of my photo to Chris Sloan for his opinion. The only book we had in the car at the time was an older version of the National Geographic guide. It mentions a thin bluish line between the eye and bill, which the bird yesterday had. I could see it in the scope and also in my photo. This feature is not mentioned in our newer Sibley guide. One photo of a juvie White-faced Ibis on the internet showed the joints of the legs having a reddish tinge. Our bird yesterday had all dark legs. Eye color was dark or dark brown. In adults of these 2 species, the eye is reddish in White-faced and dark brown in Glossy. White-faced is a more western bird where the Glossy is a more eastern bird. While this is not by any means definitive, it's another factor to consider. I looked at Robinson's Annotated Checklist of TN birds and I found no records in this end of the state. Dollyann and I have seen White-faced over in west TN, but I've never seen Glossy in the state. I will continue to check in to this ID over the next few days and if I find any other substantiating or interesting information, I'll pass it along. In the meantime we should probably say that this is an ibis sp. (although since it would be a state bird for me, I'm leaning very heavily towards Glossy!!!). Great Birding, Ron Hoff and Dollyann Myers Clinton, TN =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds you report were seen. The actual DATE OF OBSERVATION should appear in the first paragraph. _____________________________________________________________ To post to this mailing list, simply send email to: tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe, send email to: tn-bird-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field. ______________________________________________________________ TN-Bird Net is owned by the Tennessee Ornithological Society Neither the society(TOS) nor its moderator(s) endorse the views or opinions expressed by the members of this discussion group. Moderator: Wallace Coffey, Bristol, TN wallace@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx ------------------------------ Assistant Moderator Andy Jones Cleveland, OH ------------------------------- Assistant Moderator Dave Worley Rosedale, VA __________________________________________________________ Visit the Tennessee Ornithological Society web site at http://www.tnbirds.org * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ARCHIVES TN-Bird Net Archives at //www.freelists.org/archives/tn-bird/ MAP RESOURCES Tenn.Counties Map at http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/states/tennessee3.gif Aerial photos to complement google maps http://local.live.com _____________________________________________________________