[TN-Bird] [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Fish Crow in Roane County?]]
- From: Raincrow <raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: TNbird <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 04 May 2004 11:47:14 -0400
Do these juvenile Am crows repeat the same call over and over, as Fish
crows seem to do, or do they toss in some nasal, "fishy" vocalizations
along with more characteristic Am-crowy calls? And do fish crows have
the range of click, frog calls, and mews that Am crows have or do they
stick to that "unh-anh" call?
Liz Singley
Kingston TN
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Subject: Re: [TN-Bird] [Fwd: Fish Crow in Roane County?]
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 07:22:58 -0400
From: John Devereux Joslin <jdjoslin@xxxxxxxxx>
To: raincrow@xxxxxxxxxxx
References: <408DE21C.4A01225C@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Liz,
Thanks for your thoughts. I'm still on the fence on this one.
Here's
what Mike Roedel (our current State Ornithologist) had to say:
Dev,
I've tracked down fish crow vocalizations in suspect locations on a few
occasions only to find juvenile American crows guilty of the calls.
During
the past three winters in New Mexico, I had as many as 250 crows at one
time
coming to my yard in the mornings to feed on chicken scratch. There were
a
few of them that had extremely odd vocalizations and were recognizable
upon
their return each year. A couple of that bunch were fluent in fish crow.
Mike
Raincrow wrote:
> Hi Dev
> I, too, have heard the very occasional Fish crow here in Kingston, perhaps
> 3-4 in the past 10 years. I used to live in Northern Virginia, where both
> Fish and Am Crows were as common as starlings, and while the species
> tended to "keep to themselves," I have seen a single Fish crow
> associate with Am crows (I don't think I ever saw it the other way
> around). Maybe this gal/guy is lost and hanging with the most welcoming
> and familiar crowd s/he could find...?
>
> Liz Singley
> Kingston TN
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: [TN-Bird] Fish Crow in Roane County?
> Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 08:04:59 -0400
> From: John Devereux Joslin <jdjoslin@xxxxxxxxx>
> Reply-To: jdjoslin@xxxxxxxxx
> To: TN-Bird <tn-bird@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Recently, someone on TN-birds reported a Fish Crow at Kingston Steam
> Plant (sorry I forget who it was). Over the past three years, I have
> heard at least once, calls that I thought were Fish Crows in my
> neighborhood--extremely nasal for a crow. This year I even hear the
> Unh-uh call, so characteristic of this species. But when I traced the
> caller down, each time he was with other crows that were giving normal
> American Crow calls. So I have dismissed this as a crow with an odd
> voice.
> Since I live in the same county as Kingston Steam Plant (Roane) and
> the Unh-uh call is so distinctive, I wonder if I have been remiss in not
> reporting these birds. DOES anyone know if Fish Crows will associate
> with American Crows in the same flock? And how likely are they to be in
> Roane County (middle East Tenn.)?
>
> Dev Joslin
> Oak Ridge, TN
>
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