Hi Dean Oy vay. It's been so long since I've seen a Pine siskin that I didn't even think about that. After sifting through 3 pages of Google images, I found close-enough examples of both birds that <blush> this seems to be the most plausible explanation (although none of the Google images are as extreme of coloring and markings as the 2 birds I saw). Sheesh. <blush> Thank you <blush> for pointing me in the correct <blush> direction. Liz Singley Kingston TN <blush> ------- Original Message ------- From : kde@xxxxxxx[mailto:kde@xxxxxxx] Sent : 2/23/2009 1:29:21 PM To : raincrow@xxxxxxxxxx Cc : Subject : RE: Re: [TN-Bird] Do Purple (or House) finches and American goldfincheshybridize?? Wasn't a Pine Siskin? Dean On Mon, 23 Feb 2009, Raincrow wrote: > I had two oddballs mixed in with ~40 Am. goldfinches last week in my > driveway, ~5 miles south of Kingston in Roane County, feeding on black oil > sunflower seeds. > > Both were goldfinch-size. > > One was a pale brownish-gray from head to the ends of its wing coverts (at > first glance, the side view looked like a pale Savannah Sparrow, then I saw > its high-contrast flecked breast, as high-contrast > as a female Purple finch; head fairly drab and plain). THEN I got a load of > the yellow, black, and off-white (pale ecru) in its primaries, rump, and > tail, and they clearly belonged to a male Am. > goldfinch. It had pale ecru wing bars where a male Am Goldfinch would have > white bars. > > The second looked much like a miniature female Purple finch (as described > above) without the flashy behinder, but on the sides of its pale ecru belly, > peeking out just below its folded wings, were 2 > very dark, nested swoops that extended almost from the leading edge of the > folded wing to beyond the end of the wing coverts. SPECTACULAR! Reminded me > of some of the dramatic markings one might see on > ducks. > > I've never seen anything like these two l'il fellers/fellinas. (Yes, I was > sober!) Someone please offer a guess as to what I was seeing! > > Liz Singley > Kingston TN (Roane Co.) > > =================NOTES TO SUBSCRIBER===================== > > The TN-Bird Net requires you to SIGN YOUR MESSAGE with > first and last name, CITY (TOWN) and state abbreviation. > You are also required to list the COUNTY in which the birds > you report were seen. 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