And there's even more. There's a lawsuit in Michigan. A 77 yr old lady driving a 2005 Camry (that is not part of the recall) died in 2008 when her car suddenly accelerated to 80 mph, leap into the air and hit a tree. The story is in the NY Times and it's very detailed. Apparently Toyota and the NHTSA agreed not to count as failures any vehicles that suddenly accelerated if the brake had been applied. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/05/business/05recall.html?th&emc=th I had a similar problem years ago in our 1990 Merc Sable. Had to have a diagnostic recorder attached to the car and then we drove it for many days pushing a button when the car suddenly accelerated then taking it to the dealer to have the record downloaded for analysis. The dealer finally traced the problem to a bad throttle position sensor. Replaced it and it happened again. It took THREE replacements before they got us a replacement that did not cause sudden acceleration. We nicknamed the car "killer". Not so funny now. Fortunately for us, if we pressed hard on the brake (caught it quick enough) we could stop the car. We'd be driving along and all of a sudden you'd hear the engine roar. The first time it did it, I was so surprised I didn't know what to do and then slammed on the brakes. Good thing we wear seatbelts! This issue with Toyota more and more smells of a coverup. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Leadfree [mailto:Leadfree@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey (EHCOE) Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 1:15 PM To: Leadfree@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [LF] A Change in Paradigm: Maximum Whisker Length Just Got Longer John, Chris and Werner, I would have hoped my alternative for a finish would have been more than just a term to describe the view of you circling. Dewey -----Original Message----- From: Leadfree [mailto:Leadfree@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of John Burke Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 11:03 AM To: Leadfree@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [LF] A Change in Paradigm: Maximum Whisker Length Just Got Longer Of course if Dewey were on line he would probably state that the American consumer takes a dim view of auto reliability problems.....8-) John Burke (408) 515 4992 -----Original Message----- From: Leadfree [mailto:Leadfree@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mike Buetow Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 9:04 AM To: Leadfree@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [LF] A Change in Paradigm: Maximum Whisker Length Just Got Longer More on Toyota. Now they are questioning if the electronics problems extend to the headlights. http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2010986931_toyota05.ht ml Mike Buetow Circuits Assembly w/m 617-327-4702 >>> REGISTER FOR VIRTUAL PCB -- MARCH 2-4 www.virtual-pcb.com <<< -----Original Message----- From: Leadfree [mailto:Leadfree@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Landman Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2010 4:29 PM To: Leadfree@xxxxxxx Subject: [LF] A Change in Paradigm: Maximum Whisker Length Just Got Longer Have you read this article ? Tin whisker induced field failures of medical equipment using flexible film connector (FFC) contact receptacle that is ("matte" <-- supplier's terminology) tin plating over 1.5 microns nickel over copper alloy http://www.dfrsolutions.com/uploads/white-papers/Maximum_Whisker_Length2 .pdf Tin Whisker Mitigation Current, DfR advises companies that mitigation of components with lead spacings greater than 500 microns may not be necessary if the plating is matte tin and the manufacturer demonstrates some evidence of control (either through process control or periodic testing). Leads with welding operations or pressure contacts do not fall under that recommendation. DfR is now modifying our approach and we now recommend that NO tin-plated connectors be used unless physical barriers are present between leads/pins or the spacing between leads is at least 1000 to 2000 microns (driven by degree of risk aversion). =================== That's quite a recommendation! Bob Landman H&L Instruments, LLC