Msg: #1 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: My my my
Date: Fri, 8 Apr 2005 16:24:50 -0400
From: "Matthew Shrewsbury" <MShrewsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
I spoke to Microsoft about this kind of scenario and they said:
When accessing Office XP through TS you need an Office XP license for
each device, exceptions are second laptop, kiosk or single use PC.=20
When accessing from home you must have a license for Office XP at home
that is same version(XP), edition (Std), channel (open volume) as
installed on the server.
Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+
Senior Network Administrator
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Henry Sieff
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:12 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: My my my
I know for a fact they couldn't. I tried and failed.
In exchange2k3, they now offer per user licensing - so one license, one
user regardless of how many different devices. I have no doubts they
will offer the same thing for office, especially since they are moving
towards having a server-based collaboration system which encompasses
office as well.
Not that I would ever advise anybody to break there EULA, and I
definitely wouldn't break my own EULA, but the per-user model makes
sense to me and I think is the only viable solution - MS will have to
take it, or they will pretty much write office out of the thin client
equation.=20
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RMC - Brian Hill
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:53 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: My my my
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I don't even think Microsoft could give you a straight answer.
=20
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:beckett.bill@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:38 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] My my my
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So much conflicting info from different people that I thought=20
I'd try to blur it up even further. Consider the following scenario:
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Our company has a webpage with access to certain apps, our DB=20
app, Word, Excel and Viso. I can access this web page from=20
any machine with internet access. I login from home from my=20
home pc, from home from my home laptop, from PC's at various=20
hotels and cybercafe's. Let's say 8 total.
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Question, how many app licenses do I need?
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Msg: #2 in digest
Date: Sat, 9 Apr 2005 08:36:05 +1200
From: Greg Reese <gareese@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: My my my
You could ask three different MS people and get three different
answers. They aren't completely unreasonable though. If you aren't
blatantly abusing the license, they aren't going to nail you to the
wall for it. Don't buy 10 licenses and run 100 users. Make a decent
effort to license your needs.
When I went through this, I sought the advice of my local reseller, a
Microsoft Platinum Level Partner (whatever the hell that means). They
said it was ok to buy 100 licenses for my 100 users and we would be
safe. They put it in writing. If MS ever came after me about it, I
felt we were covered. We were following the advice and purchasing
from their trusted agent so it was not our fault if it was screwed up.
Plus we, had made a resonable effort to be compliant and were not
trying to defraud anyone.
Greg
On Apr 9, 2005 8:24 AM, Matthew Shrewsbury <MShrewsbury@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I spoke to Microsoft about this kind of scenario and they said:
When accessing Office XP through TS you need an Office XP license for
each device, exceptions are second laptop, kiosk or single use PC.
When accessing from home you must have a license for Office XP at home
that is same version(XP), edition (Std), channel (open volume) as
installed on the server.
Matthew Shrewsbury, MCSE+Internet MCSE 2000 CCA Server+
Senior Network Administrator
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Henry Sieff
Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 4:12 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: My my my
I know for a fact they couldn't. I tried and failed.
In exchange2k3, they now offer per user licensing - so one license, one
user regardless of how many different devices. I have no doubts they
will offer the same thing for office, especially since they are moving
towards having a server-based collaboration system which encompasses
office as well.
Not that I would ever advise anybody to break there EULA, and I
definitely wouldn't break my own EULA, but the per-user model makes
sense to me and I think is the only viable solution - MS will have to
take it, or they will pretty much write office out of the thin client
equation.
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of RMC - Brian Hill
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 10:53 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: My my my
I don't even think Microsoft could give you a straight answer.
-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Beckett [mailto:beckett.bill@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 5:38 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] My my my
So much conflicting info from different people that I thought
I'd try to blur it up even further. Consider the following scenario:
Our company has a webpage with access to certain apps, our DB
app, Word, Excel and Viso. I can access this web page from
any machine with internet access. I login from home from my
home pc, from home from my home laptop, from PC's at various
hotels and cybercafe's. Let's say 8 total.
Question, how many app licenses do I need?
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