Yes . . .lack of vendor support for any software product your company may implement and rely on for day to day operations is indeed something to consider and be concerned about when / if someone chooses to go the 'free' route.=20 And this product doesn't offer any ability to auto-reconnect users to a dropped RDP session either. As yours apparently does. But to be fair, they "gave" away this product way before win2k3 was released, and someone must still be putting in some effort on it if they've updated their website and up'd their product version to support win2k3.=20 Sadly enough, there are many companies that are using unsupported software and hardware solutions from vendors that aren't in business anymore. I've been to too many sites where the network was just barely limping along, and the admin's continually applied liberal amounts of duck-tape, chewing gum, and bailing wire to their setup just to make it through the day. ;) Good luck in your development efforts Claudio, I look forward to seeing the results.=20 J -----Original Message----- From: Claudio Rodrigues [mailto:crodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=20 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 11:59 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: What about this? Oh yes I know them. The main issue is they are out of business and do NOT support the product anymore (that is why they give it away). Good to use at home for sure but I do not see many companies using unsupported solutions from someone that is not even in business anymore. ;-) -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Hathaway Sent: April 22, 2004 1:41 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: What about this? http://www.clusteresis.com/rdplb.htm there are free options out there that do all these things. . .;) -----Original Message----- From: Claudio Rodrigues [mailto:crodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]=3D3D20 Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 9:33 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: What about this? Yes but NLB is not resource based what means it does not care about CPU/# of users/Paging etc. Also it does not support reconnection to the right server (unless you use 2003 Enterprise). WTSGateway Pro does all that even with Windows 2000 Server. -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Shonk, Joe - Perot Sent: April 22, 2004 11:32 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: What about this? If he is going TS2003 wouldn't he be able to do NLB for free? Joe -----Original Message----- From: Claudio Rodrigues [mailto:crodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 7:39 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: What about this? As I said it is just a matter of adding this to an existing product that we currently sell for US$ 299.00 (to load balance two terminal servers, regardless of how many users/CPUs/Hyperthreading - :-) - you have). How does that compare to the difference in price between XPs and XPa? -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew Rogers Sent: April 22, 2004 10:13 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: What about this? depends how much you're looking to charge for it! :D we're planning on going over to 2003 with new hardware and ditching our sec=3D3D3D3D3D ond mf box, going to just the one.. leaving me with hardware lying around a=3D3D3D3D3D nd a much emptier rack :) Andrew --o-- >>> crodrigues@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 22/04/04 15:03:53 >>> Hey guys, As you are the best Citrix list around, I guess I must ask this question here first. I was playing with my WTSGateway Pro software last night and I figured out we can easily change it to support ICA/XML. This means if you have 2 or 3 MetaFrame XPs servers, you would be able to load balance them (resource based load balancing) without having to use Xpa. My question is, is this worth anything? Or XPs is pretty much dead? Also how much would you save on licensing if you get XPs instead of Xpa for let's say 90-100 users (assuming around 30-35 users per server)? I do not sell Citrix at all so I have no idea what is the price difference between XPs and Xpa per user and even if XPs is still available. Finallyt I want to let you know we will be releasing bi-directional audio for RDP very soon in case anyone is interested. :-) See ya! 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