Hi Rick, I'm really glad you responded. Thanks for this info. Uphclean is running, but not giving me much (or anything) to play with. I may try turning off (disabling) client autocreated printers. This client has a lot of HP Deskjets, so something may be a bit sus here. They are also only running a clean install of FR3, with two Citrix hotfixes. I'm trying to convince them to deploy SP4 because it addresses so many things, and I'm hoping it with also clear up the wfshell errors. Also thanks for the process explorer tip. I guess that's a good way to track down a problematic app. Cheers, Jeremy. Rick Mack <ulrich.mack@gmai l.com> To Jeremy Saunders/Australia/IBM@IBMAU 18/05/2005 05:38 cc PM Subject Re: [THIN] WFSHELL errors Please respond to Rick Mack Hi Jeremy, The most common reason for wfshell.exe hanging is client autocreated printers. However the way I'd handle this, provided you can reproduce the wfshell hang, is run up process explorer (www.sysinternals.com) to see what handles wfshell has open on logoff or seamless application closure. Provided you're running uphclean (mandatory on 2003 in my opinion) you may also be getting some useful information from profile unload errors. Unfortunately a CCIA leans more towards a design/enterise view of the world which really doesn't help beans with application or O.S. issues. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems On 5/18/05, Jeremy Saunders <jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hi All, > > Is anyone running MF XP 1.0 FR3 on Windows 2003 and receiving wfshell > errors? We've been experiencing this on one particular site for about a > year now, and not received much useful help from Citrix Support. The issue > has been escallated, but I was wondering if anyone else has every dealt > with wfshell errors and how you went about diagnosing the issue. > > Even with all the experience and CCIA training I have had, I am unsure > where to look next. > > Cheers. > > Kind regards, > > Jeremy Saunders > Senior Technical Specialist > > ceruleanTM > an IBM Australia Company > formerly known as Logicalis > > Level 2, 1060 Hay Street > West Perth WA 6005 > AUSTRALIA > > Visit us at > http://www.cerulean.com.au/ > > P: +61 8 9261 8412 F: +61 8 9261 8536 > M: TBA E-mail: > Jeremy.saunders@xxxxxxxxxxx > > ******************************************************** > This Weeks Sponsor: ThinPrint GmbH > Now available: The new version .print Engine 6.2 with SSL encryption > and certificate management. > http://www.thinprint.com > ********************************************************** > Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: > http://thin.net/links.cfm > ThinWiki community - Excellent SBC Search Capabilities! > http://www.thinwiki.com > *********************************************************** > For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or > set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: > http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm > -- Ulrich Mack Volante Systems ******************************************************** This Weeks Sponsor: ThinPrint GmbH Now available: The new version .print Engine 6.2 with SSL encryption and certificate management. http://www.thinprint.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thin.net/links.cfm ThinWiki community - Excellent SBC Search Capabilities! http://www.thinwiki.com *********************************************************** For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thin.net/citrixlist.cfm