[THIN] Re: Vitalizing Citrix Boxes

  • From: "Chad.M Schneider" <Chad.M.Schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 15:42:26 -0500

Understood...just not an option in our environment.

I can't have a Dr.or nurse get kicked out of medical info, in the midst
of reviewing/entering it.

>>> steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 9/19/2007 3:17:34 PM >>>

You could make a maximum session time of something like 12 hours, that
way a
person work all day and even into the night but you can reboot in the
late
evening. We have done that for customers where the servers do a
rolling
reboot- sessions have a maximum time and if that server is due for a
reboot
the sessions are warned before and then ended at the time-out.

 
Steve Greenberg
Thin Client Computing
34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453
Scottsdale, AZ 85262
(602) 432-8649
www.thinclient.net 
steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
 

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Of Chad.M Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:56 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: Vitalizing Citrix Boxes

24/7/365.

In the meantime, you need the overhead of having that many additional
physical servers, to handle the load of having other servers logons
disabled.

>>> joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx 9/19/2007 2:31:19 PM >>>
Be proactive... Disable logins the night before and when you come in
the
next morning the server(s) should be free of pesky users (assuming you
use a
connection timeout value)

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Of Chad.M Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 11:46 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: Vitalizing Citrix Boxes

Wait until users drop off...

I can't get them to log off, even after sending multiple requests via
Citrix messaging.

:)

>>> joe.shonk@xxxxxxxxx 9/19/2007 12:57 PM >>>
Yes, but for a silo that has 3 or more servers it does not make sense.

The
cost and overhead is high for gaining very little or nothing at all. 
If
anything, you've increase your resource requirements.

Vmotion is cool, but do you really need it for a Citrix server?  How
hard is
it to disable logons and wait until the users drop off?  Building
Citrix
servers on raw hardware can be just as easy and fast as deploying a VM
from
a template.  Throw in Ardence and you've got a killer solution (yes,
Ardence
can be used for VMs too)  

For really small silos and under-utilized servers it makes sense, but
if
you're deploying EPIC to 2000 users it does not.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
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Of Chad.M Schneider
Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:52 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Subject: [THIN] Re: Virtualizing Citrix Boxes

I know several places, going entirely VM.  I have been lucky to be
part

of them.

Why would you want to....save rack space (thereby saving floor space),
save power, save heat, ability to dynamically move servers, ease of
build of new servers, save time, more efficiently run on the hardware
given, etc.  The list goes on and on.

>>> jmedpc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx 9/19/2007 9:43 AM >>>
Why would you want to run PS servers on a VM?  How much Virtualization
is too much?  I never thought of using VM for Citrix, except for test
servers.  I do use VM for WI, License and AAC servers, however.

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