Sounds like you need the post SP4 patches to slow out the slow login times _____ From: Ruud Bransen [mailto:R.Bransen@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: 20 July 2004 16:32 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Users can't logoff, admins can; winlogon.exe taking all cpu time Environment: Windows 2000 SP4 domain controller with roaming user profiles Windows 2000 SP4 / Citrix MF XP 1.0 SP3 FR3 And this issue: "Normal" users can not log off, once the user is a member of the Domain Admins, the user logs off normally. After logging off the session hangs at the "Closing network connections" message. If I disconnect the network connections manually, it hangs without this message (so just W2K blue). The Winlogon process takes the complete CPU time even after logging off the user through CMC or Terminal Server Manager. After logging of the user through CMC, the user profile is still on the Terminal Server and "in use" as it can not be deleted till the server has rebooted. I tried - the policy "Do not check for ownership of roaming profiles" (or something similar) - changing permissions at the "Documents and Settings" folder - installing all updates at Windows update Can anyone help out? Regards, Ruud Bransen Databalk bv