[THIN] Re: Seamless Windows
- From: "Jim Kenzig ThinHelp.com" <jkenzig@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2008 08:28:34 -0500
We have kind of learned over the past 12 years of using Citrix in our
environment that the users DONT CARE where their app is coming from as long
as they can get to it and it loads in a reasonable time.
TS Gateway in 2008 is awesome and one of the greatest new features I think,
but their "seamless application publishing" feature called Remote Apps is
still a bit clunky. It does work though and gives you the ability to just
publish apps instead of desktops.
Citrix just offers so many more options at this point as far as HOW to
publish apps and a variety of clients.
However the ICA and RDP protocols have caught up with each in my opinion and
speed is not as much of a consideration to the mix any more.
With Server 2008 I think the average company can now get away with
publishing apps and not have a need for Citrix unless you want the added
feature set. This is why Citrix has had to branch out into virtualization
and other "hardware" technologies.
Now grant it MS has also been hurdling into vitrualization but I feel that
it is for a very different reason and that is for backward compatibility as
they move forward. Yeah they do want to compete in the market and yeah
virtualization is an IT managers dream come true but VMWare is so far ahead
in the game and such a beautiful thing! I just haven't played with XenServer
enough to offer an opinion on Citrix's take on Virtualization. But it is
still all about how much money do you really want to pay for your users to
be able to get to their apps.
Do you want to just use MS Server 2008, buy your TS licenses and be done
with it or do you want to get on the Citrix gray train and have to
continuously pay their SA fees so you can just get and keep the latest
updates?
JK
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 4:24 AM, Nick Smith <nick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Coming from a Vanilla TS –only experience, I'd appreciate some input from
> the Citirx types.
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> With Windows 2008 looming/here, I'd be interested to know what the user
> experience/comprehension tends to be for Seamless windows. Here's my
> thoughts on this as we consider implementation.
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> We're looking at a scenario where all Apps and Data are kept off-site –
> there is no fat client access at all, and we generally have no control at
> all over the PC end of things. Our clients currently connect and get a full
> Windows Desktop and access to apps and data. They will usually minimize the
> TS Desktop to get at eg web browsing, multimedia, Voip, etc local
> applications.
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> From a user perspective that's a fairly easy distinction to make. If
> however, we give them(Via .rap or whatever launch mechanism) apps which look
> like they are local, even though they access remote data, will this not
> confuse them like crazy?
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> The basic question boils down to this; if we implement Seamless Windows,
> can we expect an increase in user error/comprehension support calls?
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> Nick
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Jim Kenzig
Microsoft MVP - Terminal Services
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Citrix Technology Professional
CEO The Kenzig Group
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