There speaks the voice of experience... I've only dealt with 1200LEs, and they can't (yet) be managed using Rappo= rt - I just thought that given the firmware issues we've had recently (in= cluding one that I think was specifically developed for us, and another t= hat was to fix a bug in the first one), life might have been easier if we= 'd have had something slightly "fatter" with the management to go with it. Having said that, the FTP firmware distribution mechanism is fairly strai= ghtforward to set up (despite the documentation), and it works nicely in = combination with DHCP. All the 1200LEs are competely managed centrally. Y= ou just plug one into the network, and it gets an IP address, the latest = firmware and the correct connections for that site. So in that respect, i= t is pretty much plug-and-go. Regards, Jeremy Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Ron Oglesby [mailto:roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: woensdag 19 mei 2004 17:30 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Recomendations for really Thin Clients? (i.e. - bootp) I have to disagree. I have a number of clients with 1200 LEs that had to move to them OFF of Windows CE devices. Rapport blows. And as far as the = Les get them up and running and my experience is that the mgmt is almost nil.= We push out config changes off a TFTP server and done. Ron Oglesby Senior Technical Architect Microsoft MVP - Windows Server =20 RapidApp, Chicago Mobile 815 325-7618 Office 312 372-7188 e-mail roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx =20 -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Beh= alf Of Thomas, Jeremy Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 2:10 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Recomendations for really Thin Clients? (i.e. - bootp= ) Steve, Even with Wyse 1200LE terminals (about as thin as they come AFAIK), you n= =3D eed an infrastructure in place to distribute configurations and firmware. 1200LEs are java based, and we have found their firmware needs regular up= =3D dating. I suspect we would have found CE devices to be more manageable, n= =3D otably because Wyse have a management program called Rapport that would h= =3D ave helped manage slightly "fatter" Wyse clients. Sounds like you might have some testing to do... Regards, Jeremy Thomas -----Original Message----- From: Steve Snyder [mailto:steven_snyder@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: woensdag 19 mei 2004 0:58 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Recomendations for really Thin Clients? (i.e. - bootp) Anyone using thin clients with bootp that you really like? We're on a .mil network and have to maintain regular mandated updates, so we're debating whether to use TCs with no local OS to be maintained, and everything that I'm familiar with (i.e., used to sale) are either embedded CE, XP, linux, etc. I recall a client using Tek terminals years ago (bought out by NCD), but I don't know if anything similar stille exists. thanks =3D09 =3D09 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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