Go to www.eventid.net and search on the event id and source. It will bring up a number of responses, many of which reference MS KB articles. I usually go into the offending service and eithe rincrease the timeout value or disable the counters for it. That sight has all the details. adam "Carl Stalhood" <cstalhood@mailsn are.net> To Sent by: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin-bounce@freel cc ists.org Subject [THIN] Re: Perflib errors 01/04/2007 02:30 PM Please respond to thin@xxxxxxxxxxxx g I see these kinds of errors a lot so I just ignore them. From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Schneider, Chad M Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:45 PM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: [THIN] Re: Perflib errors I have an idea that I am seeing the same thing on some servers…. From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Malcolm Bruton Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2007 2:40 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Perflib errors Anyone have any idea? From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Malcolm Bruton Sent: 03 January 2007 11:23 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Perflib errors All Have a problem where we get lots of perflib errors in the event logs...Such as The timeout waiting for the performance data collection function "PerfOS" in the "C:\WINNT\system32\perfos.dll" Library to finish has expired. There may be a problem with this extensible counter or the service it is collecting data from or the system may have been very busy when this call was attempted. or The timeout waiting for the performance data collection function "TermService" in the "C:\WINNT\system32\perfts.dll" Library to finish has expired. There may be a problem with this extensible counter or the service it is collecting data from or the system may have been very busy when this call was attempted. We run Metaframe XPe FR3 on Windows 2000 Sp4 and use RM on HP tin. We think we get all these errors because we have too many things running on the boxes monitoring performance. E.g. the OS, RM HP management agents and NETIQ. Boxes appear to show no information in the CMC but if you wait 10 mins or so the box is fine. Whilst in this state the above event log messages occur. Anyone have any ideas? We were thinking about disabling the HP Management agent (just the Performance monitor on) but can't work out how to automate this. Thanks Malcolm