You can try to barter a little with them to get the price down. Be up front. Tell them I am considering you or mcaffee. Mcaffee is offering this..can you do any better.... Talk right to Trend, not to a sales person and have Trend talk to your sales person. Out of all the major AV products I have used over the last 20 years(Norton, Mcafee, Trend) Trend is the ONLY one that has not caused some kind of issue of error or slowness with the operating system at one point or another during normal operation. (While scanning with any of them your system slows to a crawl) Mcaffee constantly has problems with bad signature files and Norton is just too damn persistent with every function that it does with the system. Every try and uninstall Norton? What a pain in the butt! I shouldn't have to uninstall 5 things to get your product off my system. JAK Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: v\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } o\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } w\:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } .shape { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#VML) } @font-face { font-family: Tahoma; } @page Section1 {size: 612.0pt 792.0pt; margin: 72.0pt 90.0pt 72.0pt 90.0pt; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Times New Roman" } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-reply } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 } I could possibly agree it's the "best AV product" for one reason or another, but their updated pricing that happened sometime in 2005 makes it up to 2x as expensive as every other major product. I tested all the major ones, and didn't find anything about Trend (detection, footprint, deployment, management, etc) to warranty such a major price differential. This was on enterprise class pricing of 500 seats and up. I also checked the SMB pricing (per Jim's recommendation) and that was also almost 2x the cost. --------------------------------- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Selinger, Stephen Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 5:49 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Trend AntiSpyware Jim, Could you please elaborate on why you think it is the best? I am not agreeing or disagreeing. Simply looking for your view point. --------------------------------- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://ThinHelp.com Sent: June 26, 2006 3:43 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Trend AntiSpyware Yes, best AV product money can buy, yes. There is a management console for the product that lets you push the software out. JK Jason Benway <benwayj wrote: Is anyone running Trend's antispyware enterprise product? What's your opinion? Are you using it on your citrix servers? I just installed the trial today. I don't like that the included msi requires a command line switch to deploy. Thanks,jb This communication is intended for the use of the recipient to which it is addressed, and may contain confidential, personal and or privileged information. Please contact us immediately if you are not the intended recipient. Do not copy, distribute or take action relying on it. Any communication received in error, or subsequent reply, should be deleted or destroyed.