Well, this thread is timely. We are currently working on just such a project. Nick is right about the dearth of laptop-form thin clients. The only vendor we've found (so far) is MaxSpeed. If anyone knows of others, I'd certainly appreciate the information. Steve Raffensberger Sovereign Bank Phone: (610)208-6351 (X853351) Email: sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Nick Smith Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:43 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Notebooks, the thorn in thin client's side I'd expect this list not to agree. One point, though. A client, for space reasons, wanted a laptop device as a thin client. As far as I can see the only ones available are tablets which are significantly more expenisve than normal laptops. There is a hardware gap for a reasonably screened, inexpensive, long-battery life, wi-fi and bluetooth laptop-form thin client. Logic tells me this should be easy and cheap, but it doesn't seem to be. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Greg Reese [mailto:gareese@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: 13 June 2005 23:32 To: Thin Subject: [THIN] Notebooks, the thorn in thin client's side I am not convinced I agree with this. They don't strike me as very informed about what is what in terminals services and Citrix which they make no mention of. Greg From ZDNet.com: http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=1495 6/13/2005 Notebook - the thorn in the thin client's side -Posted by David Berlind @ 9:43 am * Home * Hardware Infrastructure * Wired & Wireless * Mobile Not a year goes by where Sun and others don't extol the virtues of thin clients â devices of limited intelligence that provide access to enterprise applications. To be a really good thin client these days, a device must support the primary protocols of terminal-based access to certain applications. Such protocols invariably include the Web and Windows Terminal protocols, and Java Virtual Machine capabilities, as well as some older ones like X Windows and 3270 access. Supposedly, not only are the terminals cheaper (actually they've had a tough time beating the cheapest PCs), but their inability to run executable code or to save information to a local storage device (eg: a USB key) also means that that they can't be the source of major security headaches. Another big benefit is that you can log on anywhere, and your "configuration" follows you everywhere you go. But one cat that the thin client approach has never quite skinned is the mobility cat. Until we have 24/7 access to a network (regardless of where we areâ the beach, a plane, etc.) there are millions of people who won't be able to get work done when they need to get it done if all they have is a thin client device. And that number is on the rise as more and more employers offer or require that their employees work from locations other than their offices or cubicles. For this reason, notebook computers and increasingly, PDAs â both of which are intelligent devices with local storage â continue to gain ground as the preferences of end-users. I was reminded of this fact by a recent news story that marked an important milestone (one that thin-clients will probably never reach). According to a recent study, May 2005 marks the first month in history during which more notebooks were sold than desktops. That trend was obviously helped along by another trend â that of home office users establishing a preference for notebooks over desktops. Uh, doh. Given how just about everybody has a WiFi access point in their homes these days, what would you want? A desktop that you have to drag around the house from your office to the living room (if you want to catch some TV) to your bed? Or, a notebook? 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