[THIN] Re: Notebooks, the thorn in thin client's side

  • From: "Raffensberger, Stephen" <SRaffens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 08:33:44 -0400

Well, this thread is timely. We are currently working on just such a
project. Nick is right about the dearth of laptop-form thin clients. The
only vendor we've found (so far) is MaxSpeed. If anyone knows of others, I'd
certainly appreciate the information.

Steve Raffensberger

Sovereign Bank
Phone: (610)208-6351 (X853351)
Email: sraffens@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 
-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Nick Smith
Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2005 6:43 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Notebooks, the thorn in thin client's side

I'd expect this list not to agree. One point, though. A client, for space
reasons, wanted a laptop device as a thin client. As far as I can see the
only ones available are tablets which are significantly more expenisve than
normal laptops. There is a hardware gap for a reasonably screened,
inexpensive, long-battery life, wi-fi and bluetooth laptop-form thin client.
Logic tells me this should be easy and cheap, but it doesn't seem to be.

Nick 

-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Reese [mailto:gareese@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: 13 June 2005 23:32
To: Thin
Subject: [THIN] Notebooks, the thorn in thin client's side

I am not convinced I agree with this.  They don't strike me as very informed
about what is what in terminals services and Citrix which they make no
mention of.

Greg

From ZDNet.com:

http://blogs.zdnet.com/BTL/?p=1495


6/13/2005
Notebook - the thorn in the thin client's side -Posted by David Berlind @
9:43 am 

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Not a year goes by where Sun and others don't extol the virtues of thin
clients â devices of limited intelligence that provide access to
enterprise applications.   To be a really good thin client these days,
a device must support the primary protocols of terminal-based access to
certain applications.  Such protocols invariably include the Web and Windows
Terminal protocols, and Java Virtual Machine capabilities, as well as some
older ones like X Windows and 3270 access. 
Supposedly, not only are the terminals cheaper (actually they've had a tough
time beating the cheapest PCs), but their inability to run executable code
or to save information to a local storage device (eg:
a USB key) also means that that they can't be the source of major security
headaches.  Another big benefit is that you can log on anywhere, and your
"configuration" follows you everywhere you go.

But one cat that the thin client approach has never quite skinned is the
mobility cat.  Until we have 24/7 access to a network (regardless of where
we areâ the beach, a plane, etc.) there are millions of people who won't be
able to get work done when they need to get it done if all they have is a
thin client device.  And that number is on the rise as more and more
employers offer or require that their employees work from locations other
than their offices or cubicles.  
For this reason, notebook computers and increasingly, PDAs â both of which
are intelligent devices with local storage â continue to gain
ground as the preferences of end-users.   I was reminded of this fact
by a recent news story that marked an important milestone (one that
thin-clients will probably never reach).

According to a recent study, May 2005 marks the first month in history
during which more notebooks were sold than desktops.   That trend was
obviously helped along by another trend â that of home office users
establishing a preference for notebooks over desktops.  Uh, doh. 
Given how just about everybody has a WiFi access point in their homes these
days, what would you want?  A desktop that you have to drag around the house
from your office to the living room (if you want to catch some TV) to your
bed?  Or, a notebook? For more than three years,  I've been recommending
against the purchase of desktop computers.  In fact, outside of my son's
tricked-out Alienware gaming system (which, he laments, he can't take very
easily take it to tournaments), I can't remember the last time I touched a
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