We have gravitated toward a hybrid of ghost/altiris for the base OS and scripted install of apps and PS, but each project is a little different and we do many variations. The main point backing what M said below that cloning a complete server seems to have diminishing returns, especially when it is so easy to auto-install PS and not have to hack identities and deal with per servers configurations.. Steve Greenberg Thin Client Computing 34522 N. Scottsdale Rd D8453 Scottsdale, AZ 85262 (602) 432-8649 www.thinclient.net steveg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx _____ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of M Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:51 PM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix cloning technologies, which work the best? I gave up with Imaging servers and Ghost and used Altiris / HP Rapid Deployment Pack to do unattended installs (This is in a farm of 150 servers with a number of load managed groups ). I also use Installation Manager to deploy our Apps (99% are MSI based) and that works fine so long as i dont deploy to too many servers at once. I dont have to touch a server and everything is done by drag and drop jobs. I found messing around with images was getting too time consuming and having to recreate images all the time was a major chore. With the unattended install, i just add/modify a few lines of text and i have an updated build. I also find i have less inconsistencies in the builds. The only downside i have with unattended installs is the time it takes to go from bare metal to PS 4 / 4.5 + Apps + Appsense and ready to run apps for users. This takes around 1.5 hours for one server. However if i build 2 or more servers it takes the same amount of time. I am also looking at Ardence / Citrix Provisioning Server to see if that can beat the HP Rapid Deployment Pack. The HP Rapid Deployment Pack uses Altiris Deployment server which does also have imaging built in. ----- Original Message ----- From: Shane M Ryan <mailto:shanemryan@xxxxxxxxx> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 9:39 PM Subject: [THIN] Citrix cloning technologies, which work the best? What are people using to clone citrix servers? Altiris, Platespin, Raid 1 mirror breaks, Acronis, etc. Citrix installation manager packages I assume would be too slow most times. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com