I don't want to use session reliability because that will keep the application open on the users PC if the network connection is broken for any reason. The end users will be traders using trading systems with figures constantly being updated on the screen while they trade. If the system lost connectivity and they thought it was still working, they could be loosing a lot of money. What we want is to use the keep alives to know when the network connection is broken, then if it is, the user cannot see the application but is still open on the server for 15 minutes. Then if before the 15 minute period happens they can connect back in, they can then finish their trades. This is the way the traders want this particular application to behave. We have another system for traders using CPS4 that will disconnect and reset the session once 60 seconds is elapsed. This works fine. But this is not the case for the scenario outlined above. Thanks, Chris ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Joe Shonk Sent: Fri 20/10/2006 15:39 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CSG and keepalives Sorry to be blunt, but that doesn't make sense. That is not what Session Reliability is. SR does not reset/logoff session, it simple reconnects to a session (in the background) if there is a break in connectivity (a nurse pushing a cart on the floor, she hits a temporary dead spot and regains connectivy. The end user doesn't see anything other than a short pause). SR is different than ICA Keepalive... ICA keepalive is just that, sending a ICA ping through the network to keep the network equipment from idling and dropping the connection. This can happen if the user session sits idle (user is not doing anything for a length of time). So based on the business driver you just described, ICA KA is not what you want. SR is. If you need to deal with idle or disconnected session, simply set the upper limits you want. On 10/20/06, Chris White <Chris.White@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: No, I've turned off session reliability on the Farm and on the WI. We don't want to keep the applications open if they are not connect because they are getting live trading information. ________________________________ From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx on behalf of Joe Shonk Sent: Fri 20/10/2006 14:44 To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: CSG and keepalives You're look at the wrong setting... What you're asking for is session reliability, not ICA keepalives. Make sure the firewall is able to pass port 2598 from the CSG box to you Presentation Servers. On presentation servers, make sure that the disconnect timeout value is what you want it to be as well as the Reset on Disconnect option is not set. Joe On 10/20/06, Chris White <Chris.White@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I've got an issue where I want run the ICA keepalives to 15 minutes. After this I've set the sessions to reset. This works fine through the PN or a WI with a direct connection. I've got an issue where when users connect through a pair of load balanced (Cisco load balanced) CSG servers to their WI page and when they get disconnected (I pull the network cable) there session gets reset after 1 minute. As I said before, if I go through the same WI server with a direct connection the session does get disconnected after the 15 minutes. It seems like the CSG has changed the ICA keepalive settings from the Citrix Farm and using it's own. I've done various searches and have tried different things but can't get this working to the 15 minutes through the CSG servers. I'm running PS4, CSG3 and WI4.2 Any ideas? Thanks, Chris