Hi Jeff, Nothing that special I guess, lockdowns on the directories is just about it. I suspect this could potentially happen anywhere users don't have r/w access to the drivers directory. The everyone group has been removed, authenticated users and power users have rx and admins and system have full access. Driver distribution is normally only via the CMC printer driver applet after testing. Had a look for changes (before I knew what was going on) and the only causative factor appears to be the new driver. Drivers without external includes don't cause any problems at all. The problem child happened to be one HP driver with all "new" include GPDs. regards, Rick Ulrich Mack Volante Systems Ltd 18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064 Queensland Australia. Ph: +61 7 3246 7704 email: rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx web: www.volante.com.au -----Original Message----- From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gunn, Jeff Sent: Wednesday, 28 July 2004 3:29 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Bloody HP printer drivers That's pretty interesting stuff, Rick. What kind of "lockdowns" do you think is most problematic? File permissions on those directories? -Jeff ________________________________ From: Rick Mack [mailto:Rick.Mack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 5:43 AM To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [THIN] Re: Bloody HP printer drivers Hi People, Been having a really good run with 2003 printer-wise, until a couple of weeks ago. [SNIP] ##################################################################################### This e-mail, including all attachments, may be confidential or privileged. Confidentiality or privilege is not waived or lost because this email has been sent to you in error. If you are not the intended recipient any use, disclosure or copying of this email is prohibited. If you have received it in error please notify the sender immediately by reply email and destroy all copies of this email and any attachments. All liability for direct and indirect loss arising from this email and any attachments is hereby disclaimed to the extent permitted by law. #####################################################################################