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thin Digest     Mon, 15 Jul 2002        Volume: 01  Issue: 003

In This Issue:
        #1:     From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #2:     From: "Mike Semon" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #3:     From: "Shannon Wyatt" <swyatt@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #4:     From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #5:     From: "Mike Semon" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #6:     Subject: [THIN] URGENT HELP
        From: "Mikael Johnsen" <mjo@xxxxxx>
        [THIN] URGENT HELP      #7:     Subject: [THIN] Re: URGENT HELP
        From: ecrabtree@xxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Re: URGENT HELP  #8:     Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: Lotus Notes R5 
and MS office XP
        From: "Jonathan K" <newave@xxxxxxxxxx>
        [THIN] Re: SV: Lotus Notes R5 and MS office XP  #9:     From: "M" 
<mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #10:    Subject: [THIN] SV: Re: URGENT HELP
        From: "Mikael Johnsen" <mjo@xxxxxx>
        [THIN] SV: Re: URGENT HELP      #11:    From: "Schneider, Chad M." 
<CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: NFUSE 1.7
        #12:    Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360      #13:    From: "M" 
<mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #14:    Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: Re: URGENT HELP
        From: ecrabtree@xxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Re: SV: Re: URGENT HELP  #15:    From: Joe Shonk 
<JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #16:    Subject: [THIN] SV: Re: SV: Re: URGENT HELP
        From: "Mikael Johnsen" <mjo@xxxxxx>
        [THIN] SV: Re: SV: Re: URGENT HELP      #17:    From: "Boatman, Dave" 
<Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #18:    From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #19:    From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #20:    From: Jason A.Shivok <jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #21:    From: Shawn Hammond <shammond@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: NFUSE 1.7
        #22:    Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
        [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability      #23:    From: Angus Macdonald 
<angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #24:    From: "Jensen, Jay" <jjensen@xxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #25:    From: "Jan Broucinek" <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #26:    From: "Joris Van Brussel" <joris_van_brussel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #27:    From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #28:    From: "Jan Broucinek" <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #29:    From: Frank Monroe <Frank.Monroe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
        #30:    From: Ruud Bransen <rb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #31:    From: "Ziots, Edward" <EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #32:    From: Michael Day <mday@xxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #33:    From: "Doyle, Kevin" <Kevin.Doyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #34:    From: Angus Macdonald <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #35:    From: Angus Macdonald <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #36:    Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        From: rewalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360      #37:    From: Michael 
<indy019@xxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Installation Manager not working - 
Gemini
        #38:    From: "Schneider, Chad M." <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Left Handed Mouse
        #39:    From: "Brian Politis" <bpolitis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #40:    From: Jim Kenzig <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] VIRUS ALERT: FRETHEM K
        #41:    From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] O/T its very quiet
        #42:    From: "Stephen Herrera" <sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Label Printers
        #43:    From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] OT: Novell's NAL and preventing program 
installation
        #44:    From: "Eugene Herman" <EHerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
        #45:    From: Matt Fowler <mfowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Impromptu & Citrix
        #46:    Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Novell's NAL and preventing program 
installat
        From: Chi_Lo@xxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Re: OT: Novell's NAL and preventing program installat    #47:    
From: "Kuczura, Tom" <tkuczura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
        #48:    From: "Turman, David C." <david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Restore
        #49:    From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T its very quiet
        #50:    Subject: [THIN] ACT! 4.0 help please!
        From: SPerez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] ACT! 4.0 help please!    #51:    From: C.Prickaerts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
        #52:    From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Restore
        #53:    Subject: [THIN] Logging in
        From: "Jonathan K" <newave@xxxxxxxxxx>
        [THIN] Logging in       #54:    From: "Jon Reynolds" <jonr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Logging in
        #55:    From: Jim Kenzig <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
        #56:    From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Logging in
        #57:    Subject: [THIN] Re: Logging in
        From: "Jonathan K" <newave@xxxxxxxxxx>
        [THIN] Re: Logging in   #58:    Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about 
Compaq DL360
        From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360      #59:    From: "Rob 
Beekmans" <robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: ACT! 4.0 help please!
        #60:    From: "Rob Beekmans" <robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Restore
        #61:    From: Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] PNAgent ICA Client
        #62:    From: "Sean Casey" <casey@xxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
        #63:    Subject: [THIN] Scripts and Published Applications
        From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Scripts and Published Applications       #64:    Subject: [THIN] 
Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360      #65:    From: "Stephen 
Herrera" <sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
        #66:    From: "Mike Semon" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
        #67:    From: John Twilley <John.Twilley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] RDP vs. ICA -
        #68:    From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP vs. ICA -
        #69:    From: "Rob Beekmans" <robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP vs. ICA -
        #70:    Subject: [THIN] Re: Scripts and Published Applications
        From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
        [THIN] Re: Scripts and Published Applications   #71:    From: 
"Selinger, Stephen" <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Auto Created Printers
        #72:    From: "Erik Gerard" <GERARDE@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Left Handed Mouse
        #73:    From: Drazen Vidakovic <drazen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
        #74:    From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Internet Explorer Settings.
        #75:    From: "Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net"; <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Internet Explorer Settings.
        #76:    From: Fred Pabia <FPabia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Nfuse
        #77:    From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Internet Explorer Settings.
        #78:    From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
        #79:    From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Weird Outlook issue.
        #80:    From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Internet Explorer Settings.
        #81:    From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse
        #82:    From: Drazen Vidakovic <drazen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
                Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
        #83:    Subject: [THIN] Andreas Westheide ist außer Haus.
        From: Andreas.Westheide@xxxxxxxx
        [THIN] Andreas Westheide ist außer Haus.
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Msg: #1 in digest
From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 04:23:56 -0700


Although you have narrowed your options, there is a solution: VMWARE.

Run virtual VM servers on one high quality box to shield you from software
glitches.

If you deploy "standard" NFuse configuration, which involves Citrix Secure
Gateway and STA Ticketing, this approach might be a bit primitive.

In any event, clustering for NFuse is definitely overkill, since connections
to NFuse are "stateless". A few load balanced web servers are sufficient for
most NFuse deployments unless you have business like FedEx or Microsoft...

ALEX


>From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:59:32 +0100
>
>I need a solution that is firstly supported by Citrix, but can utilise
>existing hardware, i.e. not buying a cluster.  We don't want Nfuse to be
>the
>single point of failure in our deployment.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexander Danilychev [mailto:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 15 July 2002 11:46
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>
>
>What do you have in mind?
>
>ALEX
>
> >From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:42:57 +0100
> >
> >All,
> >
> >Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to provide a
> >high availability NFuse site?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > > Andrew Knight.    CCI, CCEA, MCP+I, MCSE
> > >
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Msg: #2 in digest
From: "Mike Semon" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:40:07 -0500


You can load balance these servers with Cisco Local director and
cluster the Local Director if you do not want a single point of Failure.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Alexander Danilychev
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


Although you have narrowed your options, there is a solution: VMWARE.

Run virtual VM servers on one high quality box to shield you from software
glitches.

If you deploy "standard" NFuse configuration, which involves Citrix Secure
Gateway and STA Ticketing, this approach might be a bit primitive.

In any event, clustering for NFuse is definitely overkill, since connections
to NFuse are "stateless". A few load balanced web servers are sufficient for
most NFuse deployments unless you have business like FedEx or Microsoft...

ALEX


>From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:59:32 +0100
>
>I need a solution that is firstly supported by Citrix, but can utilise
>existing hardware, i.e. not buying a cluster.  We don't want Nfuse to be
>the
>single point of failure in our deployment.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexander Danilychev [mailto:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 15 July 2002 11:46
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>
>
>What do you have in mind?
>
>ALEX
>
> >From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:42:57 +0100
> >
> >All,
> >
> >Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to provide a
> >high availability NFuse site?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > > Andrew Knight.    CCI, CCEA, MCP+I, MCSE
> > >
> >Real Time Systems - 'Citrix Highest Growth Partner in Ireland 2001'
> >
> > > Real Time Systems Ltd,
> > > Agar House,
> > > 31 Ballynahinch Road,
> > > Carryduff, BT8 8EH,
> > > Northern Ireland
> > >
> > > Tel: +44 (0)28 90817171
> > > Fax: +44 (0)28 90817172
> > > Email: andrew@xxxxxxxx
> > > Web:  www.rtsl.com
> > >
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Msg: #3 in digest
From: "Shannon Wyatt" <swyatt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:03:27 -0400


I would concur with Alexander's assessment. There is no real data on a
NFuse Server, so NLB is probably the easiest and cheapest solution. That
or clustering it on another web server that is supported with NFuse.

Clustered Local Directors would be serious overkill for this, unless you
are an ASP supporting thousands of clients.

For most of my clients the full program neighborhood client is the
fallback if for some reason the NFuse server were to crash.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Semon
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:40 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


You can load balance these servers with Cisco Local director and cluster
the Local Director if you do not want a single point of Failure.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Alexander Danilychev
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


Although you have narrowed your options, there is a solution: VMWARE.

Run virtual VM servers on one high quality box to shield you from
software glitches.

If you deploy "standard" NFuse configuration, which involves Citrix
Secure Gateway and STA Ticketing, this approach might be a bit
primitive.

In any event, clustering for NFuse is definitely overkill, since
connections to NFuse are "stateless". A few load balanced web servers
are sufficient for most NFuse deployments unless you have business like
FedEx or Microsoft...

ALEX


>From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:59:32 +0100
>
>I need a solution that is firstly supported by Citrix, but can utilise
>existing hardware, i.e. not buying a cluster.  We don't want Nfuse to
>be the single point of failure in our deployment.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexander Danilychev [mailto:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 15 July 2002 11:46
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>
>
>What do you have in mind?
>
>ALEX
>
> >From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:42:57 +0100
> >
> >All,
> >
> >Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to
> >provide a high availability NFuse site?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > > Andrew Knight.    CCI, CCEA, MCP+I, MCSE
> > >
> >Real Time Systems - 'Citrix Highest Growth Partner in Ireland 2001'
> >
> > > Real Time Systems Ltd,
> > > Agar House,
> > > 31 Ballynahinch Road,
> > > Carryduff, BT8 8EH,
> > > Northern Ireland
> > >
> > > Tel: +44 (0)28 90817171
> > > Fax: +44 (0)28 90817172
> > > Email: andrew@xxxxxxxx
> > > Web:  www.rtsl.com
> > >
> > >
> > > This e-mail transmission may contain confidential information that

> > > is intended for the individual or entity named on the e-mail
> > > address. If
> >you
> > > are not the intended recipient, please reply to the sender so that
>Real
> > > Time Systems Ltd can arrange for the proper delivery, and then
> > > please delete the message from your inbox.
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Msg: #4 in digest
From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:12:02 +0100


Yeah, I was leaning towards NLB, since there is a 'Citrix' document
detailing configuration and architecture.  Just wanted to see if anyone else
had come up with a better alternative.

I think the Cisco solution is too much for us at the moment, but may come
into play later on


Cheers,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Shannon Wyatt [mailto:swyatt@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 13:03
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


I would concur with Alexander's assessment. There is no real data on a
NFuse Server, so NLB is probably the easiest and cheapest solution. That
or clustering it on another web server that is supported with NFuse.

Clustered Local Directors would be serious overkill for this, unless you
are an ASP supporting thousands of clients.

For most of my clients the full program neighborhood client is the
fallback if for some reason the NFuse server were to crash.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Semon
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:40 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


You can load balance these servers with Cisco Local director and cluster
the Local Director if you do not want a single point of Failure.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Alexander Danilychev
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


Although you have narrowed your options, there is a solution: VMWARE.

Run virtual VM servers on one high quality box to shield you from
software glitches.

If you deploy "standard" NFuse configuration, which involves Citrix
Secure Gateway and STA Ticketing, this approach might be a bit
primitive.

In any event, clustering for NFuse is definitely overkill, since
connections to NFuse are "stateless". A few load balanced web servers
are sufficient for most NFuse deployments unless you have business like
FedEx or Microsoft...

ALEX


>From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:59:32 +0100
>
>I need a solution that is firstly supported by Citrix, but can utilise
>existing hardware, i.e. not buying a cluster.  We don't want Nfuse to
>be the single point of failure in our deployment.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexander Danilychev [mailto:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 15 July 2002 11:46
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>
>
>What do you have in mind?
>
>ALEX
>
> >From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:42:57 +0100
> >
> >All,
> >
> >Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to
> >provide a high availability NFuse site?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > > Andrew Knight.    CCI, CCEA, MCP+I, MCSE
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Msg: #5 in digest
From: "Mike Semon" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:15:29 -0500


I agree, you only need a clustered Load Director if you have
a business requirement for that kind of high availability. NLB
is easier and cheaper. Normally it is best to load balance the front end
(Web servers and application servers) and cluster the back end (Database
servers).
This protects your data while providing high availability for your
applications.


Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Shannon Wyatt
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:03 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


I would concur with Alexander's assessment. There is no real data on a
NFuse Server, so NLB is probably the easiest and cheapest solution. That
or clustering it on another web server that is supported with NFuse.

Clustered Local Directors would be serious overkill for this, unless you
are an ASP supporting thousands of clients.

For most of my clients the full program neighborhood client is the
fallback if for some reason the NFuse server were to crash.

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Mike Semon
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 7:40 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


You can load balance these servers with Cisco Local director and cluster
the Local Director if you do not want a single point of Failure.

Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Alexander Danilychev
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:24 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability


Although you have narrowed your options, there is a solution: VMWARE.

Run virtual VM servers on one high quality box to shield you from
software glitches.

If you deploy "standard" NFuse configuration, which involves Citrix
Secure Gateway and STA Ticketing, this approach might be a bit
primitive.

In any event, clustering for NFuse is definitely overkill, since
connections to NFuse are "stateless". A few load balanced web servers
are sufficient for most NFuse deployments unless you have business like
FedEx or Microsoft...

ALEX


>From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:59:32 +0100
>
>I need a solution that is firstly supported by Citrix, but can utilise
>existing hardware, i.e. not buying a cluster.  We don't want Nfuse to
>be the single point of failure in our deployment.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Alexander Danilychev [mailto:teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx]
>Sent: 15 July 2002 11:46
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
>
>
>What do you have in mind?
>
>ALEX
>
> >From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability
> >Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:42:57 +0100
> >
> >All,
> >
> >Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to
> >provide a high availability NFuse site?
> >
> >Regards,
> >Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > > Andrew Knight.    CCI, CCEA, MCP+I, MCSE
> > >
> >Real Time Systems - 'Citrix Highest Growth Partner in Ireland 2001'
> >
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Msg: #6 in digest
Subject: [THIN] URGENT HELP
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:35:12 +0200
From: "Mikael Johnsen" <mjo@xxxxxx>

My users can not write to the file server from their sessions

Med venlig hilsen / Best regards
Mikael Johnsen
Systemadministrator / System Administrator

PBJ Consult A/S
Roholmsvej 10G
DK-2620 Albertslund
Phone: +45 43 62 74 00, Fax: +45 43 62 74 24
Email: mailto:mjo@xxxxxx, Homepage: http://www.pbj.dk




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Msg: #7 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: URGENT HELP
From: ecrabtree@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:36:42 -0400



More info is needed to provide you with help.  Can you give a bigger
background of your setup please.



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Msg: #8 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: Lotus Notes R5 and MS office XP
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:38:26 -0400
From: "Jonathan K" <newave@xxxxxxxxxx>

OK everyone, I talked with Lotus last week and guess what I they told me " it's 
a Microsoft problem " wow don't I feel special now.  In any case the person at 
Lotus helping me has worked extensively on this problem.  What she had me do is 
uninstall Windows Messaging ( I tried installing this to see if it would help), 
uninstall Lotus Notes and Word XP ( we only use word xp not office ).  Now I 
had to install in this order.  First, Outlook and Word XP and then Lotus Notes. 
 Then I went into the mail icon in control panel and configured a third party 
application ( one of the settings ) and behold Lotus Notes was the option.  Now 
I can do a send to from Word XP.

Hope this helps.  If anyone needs more info please let me know.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Rune Bjorkeng [mailto:janrune@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Thursday, July 11, 2002 5:57 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] SV: Lotus Notes R5 and MS office XP


Join the team.. neither Rob or I have found the solution to this yet, but still 
hunting..

Jan Rune

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Jonathan K
Sendt: 5. juli 2002 19:34
Til: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Emne: [THIN] Lotus Notes R5 and MS office XP


I am having a problem with MS office and Notes R5 running on Win2k and M1.8.

I am trying to get the "send to" function to work in Word XP.  When I click on 
Send to the option is grayed out.  When I change the program options in 
Internet Explorer from Notes to Outlook express the option is available again 
in Word.

When I select Notes in Internet Explorer I am from Explorer able to click send 
link and it opens Notes like it should.  But then again when I got to Word the 
option is grayed out.

I really need help with this.  Anyone have this working in their 
environments????  Ideas????

Let me know.

Thanks,

Jonathan



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Msg: #9 in digest
From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:48:32 +0100

Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2 ?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards





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Msg: #10 in digest
Subject: [THIN] SV: Re: URGENT HELP
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:51:31 +0200
From: "Mikael Johnsen" <mjo@xxxxxx>


What can I say

Everything was working until this morning and there has been no changes
since Friday

My file server is also my domain controller, when the users try to save
on another server they can!

All servers have been rebooted

I have no clues on this i'm LOST

/Mikael

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Sendt: 15. juli 2002 14:37
Til: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Emne: [THIN] Re: URGENT HELP



More info is needed to provide you with help.  Can you give a bigger
background of your setup please.



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Msg: #11 in digest
From: "Schneider, Chad M." <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: NFUSE 1.7
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:50:21 -0500

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

This error, "ERROR: The MetaFrame server farm cannot process your request at
this time. Error, Citrix XML service request too large, more than 4096
bytes. [413 request too large, more than 4180 bytes] " was something I noted
to the list @ a month ago.  You are trying to use pass-through
authentication for NFUSE 1.7.  The trouble is, that the user you are trying
to connect as, is a member of too many domain groups.  Try to create a user
who is only a domain user, and then log on as that user......


Citrix is aware of the issue and looking at releaseing a fix for it.  No
time frame.

-----Original Message-----
From: MASSEY, BILL [mailto:WMASSEY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 4:43 PM
To: Thin (E-mail)
Subject: [THIN] NFUSE 1.7



I am SO frustrated.....

I read this list all day and still have trouble with NFUSE 1.7.

I get this error in the browser.

ERROR: The MetaFrame server farm cannot process your request at this time.
Error, Citrix XML service request too large, more than 4096 bytes. [413
request too large, more than 4180 bytes]

I get a memory error on the console. I have installed it on a clean server
and still have problem. Can someone give me some tips on getting this crap
to work. I really need the Desktop Credential Pass-through to work without
errors all the time.

I use W2K - IIS 5

Thanks is advance!

-Bill





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Msg: #12 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:58:54 -0400



yes it is possible.  do you want to boot from the new 5300.  do u still
want to utilize the 5i.  but basically all this handle by the compaq
utility as you boot up.




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Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im
after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2
?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards







------------------------------

Msg: #13 in digest
From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:13:07 +0100


I dont want to boot from the 5i just from the 5300 and run the two drives as
a mirrored pair.
No external storage required.

I have been given a couple of different answers yes it works and no it
doesnt.


regards

----- Original Message -----
From: <Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:58 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


>
> yes it is possible.  do you want to boot from the new 5300.  do u still
> want to utilize the 5i.  but basically all this handle by the compaq
> utility as you boot up.
>
>
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> Hi
> Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im
> after:
>
> Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360
G2
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>
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Msg: #14 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: SV: Re: URGENT HELP
From: ecrabtree@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:20:39 -0400



It sounds like a rights issue.  I would start there.  Do you have group
policies?  Could a policy be stopping them?  Can you save to this server as
an admin?



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Msg: #15 in digest
From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 06:34:18 -0700

You can use a third-party load balancer.. There are a couple of cheap
software alternatives to the nasty NLB that microsoft provides.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Knight [mailto:Andrew@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:43 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability


All,

Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to provide a
high availability NFuse site?

Regards,
Andrew



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Msg: #16 in digest
Subject: [THIN] SV: Re: SV: Re: URGENT HELP
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:45:46 +0200
From: "Mikael Johnsen" <mjo@xxxxxx>


Yes it is a rights problem, i have tried to use both regmon and filemon
but they show me nothing

Yes i can save as an admin

Yes it could be a group policy but which one

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It sounds like a rights issue.  I would start there.  Do you have group
policies?  Could a policy be stopping them?  Can you save to this server
as
an admin?



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Msg: #17 in digest
From: "Boatman, Dave" <Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:33:32 +0100

Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think
you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for Feb
02 and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or
64Mb Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel

HTH.

Dave Boatman

-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2
?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards





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Msg: #18 in digest
From: Andrew Knight <Andrew@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:57:29 +0100

What are the alternatives?

Also a follow on from the original question, has anyone seen any sizing
documents for Nfuse servers?

Regards,
Andrew

-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 14:34
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability



You can use a third-party load balancer.. There are a couple of cheap
software alternatives to the nasty NLB that microsoft provides.

Joe

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Knight [ mailto:Andrew@xxxxxxxx <mailto:Andrew@xxxxxxxx> ]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:43 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability


All,

Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to provide a
high availability NFuse site?

Regards,
Andrew



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Msg: #19 in digest
From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:54:56 +0100

Hi Dave
I mean the DL360.
We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is supported.I have 
spoken to people at Compaq who say it is supported and it isnt supported.

regards
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Boatman, Dave
  To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
  Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


  Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think 
you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for Feb 02 
and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or 64Mb 
Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel



  HTH.



  Dave Boatman



  -----Original Message-----
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  Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
  To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360



  Hi

  Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:



  Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2 ?

  ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i



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Msg: #20 in digest
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:57:23 -0400
From: Jason A.Shivok <jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They dont 
seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on XPe FR2/SP2. 
Any input would help.

Thanks,
Jason

------------------------------

Msg: #21 in digest
From: Shawn Hammond <shammond@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: NFUSE 1.7
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:59:48 -0500

This is a known issue with NFuse 1.7.

This error is the result of a check in the XML service that restricts the
size of requests made to the XML service (to prevent denial of service
attacks). It appears the request limit is too small in this instance.

As I understand it, the more groups a user belongs to, the more likely you
will get this error. The last I heard, in June, there was no fix available
from Citrix. (Search the archives at thethin.net for: "Desktop Credential
Pass-Through XML Error" for more details.

I just did a quick check of Citrix's website and didn't see a fix but I may
have missed it.

Shawn Hammond





>From: "MASSEY, BILL" < <mailto:WMASSEY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
WMASSEY@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To:  <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "Thin (E-mail)" < <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] NFUSE 1.7
>Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 14:43:28 -0700
>
>I am SO frustrated.....
>
>I read this list all day and still have trouble with NFUSE 1.7.
>
>I get this error in the browser.
>
>ERROR: The MetaFrame server farm cannot process your request at this
>time. Error, Citrix XML service request too large, more than 4096
>bytes. [413 request too large, more than 4180 bytes]
>
>I get a memory error on the console. I have installed it on a clean
>server and still have problem. Can someone give me some tips on getting
>this crap to work. I really need the Desktop Credential Pass-through to
>work without errors all the time.
>
>I use W2K - IIS 5
>
>Thanks is advance!
>
>-Bill





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Msg: #22 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:09:48 -0500
From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>


F5's BIG IP DNS controller would be another. Though it is not cheap!!!
It can do cross subnet LB'ing though.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Knight [mailto:Andrew@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 4:43 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability

All,

Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to provide
a
high availability NFuse site?

Regards,
Andrew



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Msg: #23 in digest
From: Angus Macdonald <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:27:50 +0100


We've got several, using the default HP LaserJet 4L driver and they seem
fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason A.Shivok [mailto:jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 14:57
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They
dont seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on XPe
FR2/SP2. Any input would help.

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Msg: #24 in digest
From: "Jensen, Jay" <jjensen@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:27:52 -0500


How about the Ricoh Afico 220 printer?

-----Original Message-----
From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:28 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


We've got several, using the default HP LaserJet 4L driver and they seem
fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason A.Shivok [mailto:jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 14:57
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They
dont seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on XPe
FR2/SP2. Any input would help.

Thanks,
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Msg: #25 in digest
From: "Jan Broucinek" <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:34:16 -0400

HP 4Plus or HP4V.

Jan Broucinek, System Manager
Arthur Rutenberg Homes, Inc.
(727) 536-5900 voice
(727) 536-7168 x245 direct
(727) 538-9089 fax
www.arhomes.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jensen, Jay" <jjensen@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:27 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


> How about the Ricoh Afico 220 printer?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Angus Macdonald [mailto:angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 9:28 AM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
>
>
> We've got several, using the default HP LaserJet 4L driver and they seem
> fine.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason A.Shivok [mailto:jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: 15 July 2002 14:57
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
>
>
> Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They
> dont seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on XPe
> FR2/SP2. Any input would help.
>
> Thanks,
> Jason
>
>
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Msg: #26 in digest
From: "Joris Van Brussel" <joris_van_brussel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:41:50 +0200


Hello,

We actually had a lot of problems with laserjets 1100 (still have) they only
print white pages.
Anybody know a driver that could fix the HP1100?

Thanks in advance for your help and time.


>From: Jason A.Shivok <jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:57:23 -0400
>
>Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They
>dont seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on XPe
>FR2/SP2. Any input would help.
>
>Thanks,
>Jason
>
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Msg: #27 in digest
From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 07:47:16 -0700

What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The 5i
works quite nicely.

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


Hi Dave
I mean the DL360.
We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is supported.I have
spoken to people at Compaq who say it is supported and it isnt supported.

regards
----- Original Message -----
From: Boatman, Dave <mailto:Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <mailto:'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think
you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for Feb
02 and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or
64Mb Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel

HTH.

Dave Boatman

-----Original Message-----
From: M [ mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
]
Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2
?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards





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Msg: #28 in digest
From: "Jan Broucinek" <tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:46:01 -0400

HP4L works fine here.

Jan Broucinek, System Manager
Arthur Rutenberg Homes, Inc.
(727) 536-5900 voice
(727) 536-7168 x245 direct
(727) 538-9089 fax
www.arhomes.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joris Van Brussel" <joris_van_brussel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


> Hello,
>
> We actually had a lot of problems with laserjets 1100 (still have) they
only
> print white pages.
> Anybody know a driver that could fix the HP1100?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and time.
>
>
> >From: Jason A.Shivok 
> ><jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>Reply-To:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: 
> ><thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200Series Printers>Date: 
> >Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:57:23 -0400>>Has anyone had anyissues with the HP 
> >LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They >dont seem to beworking well since the 
> >move to xp. We are currently on XPe >FR2/SP2. Anyinput would 
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Msg: #29 in digest
From: Frank Monroe <Frank.Monroe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse high availability
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:50:41 -0400


Duplicate your website on another server and assign multiple IP addresses
for the host name so that it points to both servers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Knight [mailto:Andrew@xxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:43 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Nfuse high availability


All,

Are there any recommended alternatives to NLB and clustering to provide a
high availability NFuse site?

Regards,
Andrew



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Msg: #30 in digest
From: Ruud Bransen <rb@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:52:35 +0200


Or have a look at this:

http://www.hp.com/cposupport/printers/support_doc/bpl10248.html


Regards,

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Databalk bv
www.databalk.nl
www.diskis.nl

-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Broucinek [mailto:tinybeetle@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: maandag 15 juli 2002 16:46
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers

HP4L works fine here.

Jan Broucinek, System Manager
Arthur Rutenberg Homes, Inc.
(727) 536-5900 voice
(727) 536-7168 x245 direct
(727) 538-9089 fax
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To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:41 AM
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


> Hello,
>
> We actually had a lot of problems with laserjets 1100 (still have) they
only
> print white pages.
> Anybody know a driver that could fix the HP1100?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help and time.
>
>
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Msg: #31 in digest
From: "Ziots, Edward" <EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:05:42 -0400

Honestly,

We got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU fans
going out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5 fans in
as many mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do not
believe just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and not have
problems. The physics of thermal conduction is going to get ya.

For citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons more reliable than the DL 360's
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:47
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The 5i
works quite nicely.

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


Hi Dave
I mean the DL360.
We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is supported.I have
spoken to people at Compaq who say it is supported and it isnt supported.

regards
----- Original Message -----
From: Boatman, Dave <mailto:Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <mailto:'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think
you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for Feb
02 and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or
64Mb Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel

HTH.

Dave Boatman

-----Original Message-----
From: M [ mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
]
Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2
?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards





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Msg: #32 in digest
From: Michael Day <mday@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:11:44 -0400

We were told by Compaq that there is a recall on the fans for some of the
DL360's.  We are running them now without any problems but are replacing all
the defective power supplies.


Michael Day
Wajax Limited
mday@xxxxxxxxx
-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 11:06 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


Honestly,

We got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU fans
going out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5 fans in
as many mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do not
believe just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and not have
problems. The physics of thermal conduction is going to get ya.

For citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons more reliable than the DL 360's
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:47
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The 5i
works quite nicely.

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


Hi Dave
I mean the DL360.
We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is supported.I have
spoken to people at Compaq who say it is supported and it isnt supported.

regards
----- Original Message -----
From: Boatman, Dave <mailto:Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <mailto:'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think
you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for Feb
02 and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or
64Mb Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel

HTH.

Dave Boatman

-----Original Message-----
From: M [ mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
]
Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2
?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards





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Msg: #33 in digest
From: "Doyle, Kevin" <Kevin.Doyle@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:13:50 -0500

We bought a dozen of the DL-360's when they first came out.
We started blowing thru fans also. After the 3rd fan died we "negotiated" to
replace them all.
All newer fans are rev9's (replaced rev 0 and 1 's I think)

-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:06 AM
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Honestly,

We got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU fans
going out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5 fans in
as many mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do not
believe just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and not have
problems. The physics of thermal conduction is going to get ya.

For citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons more reliable than the DL 360's
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:47
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The 5i
works quite nicely.

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Hi Dave
I mean the DL360.
We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is supported.I have
spoken to people at Compaq who say it is supported and it isnt supported.

regards
----- Original Message -----

From: Boatman, <mailto:Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  Dave
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <mailto:'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think
you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for Feb
02 and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or
64Mb Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel

HTH.

Dave Boatman

-----Original Message-----
From: M [ mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
]
Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2
?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards





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Msg: #34 in digest
From: Angus Macdonald <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:26:28 +0100


Again, the LJ 4L driver works well here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Joris Van Brussel [mailto:joris_van_brussel@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 15:42
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


Hello,

We actually had a lot of problems with laserjets 1100 (still have) they only

print white pages.
Anybody know a driver that could fix the HP1100?

Thanks in advance for your help and time.


>From: Jason A.Shivok <jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:57:23 -0400
>
>Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They
>dont seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on XPe
>FR2/SP2. Any input would help.
>
>Thanks,
>Jason
>
>
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Msg: #35 in digest
From: Angus Macdonald <angus.Macdonald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:28:21 +0100

We've had lots of trouble with PSU fans going. If 1 of the three tiny fans
stops, the box shuts down. Overkill or what?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 16:06
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


Honestly,

We got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU fans
going out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5 fans in
as many mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do not
believe just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and not have
problems. The physics of thermal conduction is going to get ya.

For citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons more reliable than the DL 360's
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:47
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The 5i
works quite nicely.

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


Hi Dave
I mean the DL360.
We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is supported.I have
spoken to people at Compaq who say it is supported and it isnt supported.

regards
----- Original Message -----
From: Boatman, Dave <mailto:Dave.Boatman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' <mailto:'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think
you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for Feb
02 and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or
64Mb Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel

HTH.

Dave Boatman

-----Original Message-----
From: M [ mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
]
Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

Hi
Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im after:

Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360 G2
?
ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

regards





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Msg: #36 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
From: rewalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:39:43 -0500



We use DL360's, too. There is a design flaw with the DL360 power supply.
Anything below REV 9 on the power supply may have problems. We have lost
about 5 power supplies in the past 6 months because of this. We finally got
the 'new HP' to 'fess up. You may want to check the revs on all DL360 power
supplies. Unfortunately, Insight Manager will not give you that info. The
only way is to crack the box.

Richard Ewalt
Assistant V.P.
First American Bank
700 Busse Rd.
Elk Grove Village, Il. 60007
Phone: (847) 228-5505 ext. 215
e-mail: rewalt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx


                                                                            
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                      Sent by:                          Subject:  [THIN] Re: 
O/T Question about Compaq DL360
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We've  had lots of trouble with PSU fans going. If 1 of the three tiny fans
stops, the  box shuts down. Overkill or what?
-----Original Message-----
From: Ziots, Edward  [mailto:EZiots@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 16:06
To:  'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq  DL360


Honestly,

We  got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU
fans going  out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5
fans in as many  mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do
not believe  just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and
not have problems.  The physics of thermal conduction is going to get  ya.

For  citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons  more reliable than the DL 360's
Ed
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Shonk  [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002  10:47
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T  Question about Compaq DL360


What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the  box???  The 5i
works quite nicely.

Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: M  [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002  6:55 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T  Question about Compaq DL360


Hi Dave
I mean the DL360.
We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack  .. space is tight.

I have read the product guides and it does  indeed say it is supported.I
have spoken to people at Compaq who say it is  supported and it isnt
supported.

regards
----- Original Message -----
From:  Boatman, Dave
To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33  PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question  about Compaq DL360

Don't you mean  the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I think
you'd be  wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide for
Feb 02  and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302
( 32  or 64Mb Cache)  and the 5302  Fibre Channel



HTH.



Dave  Boatman



-----Original  Message-----
From: M  mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002  13:49
To:  Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about  Compaq DL360



Hi

Bit off topic  but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what im
after:



Is it possible  to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL 360
G2

ie adding the  5300 internally and bypassing the onboard  5i



regards








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Msg: #37 in digest
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 08:52:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael <indy019@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Citrix Installation Manager not working - Gemini installer


I ran across this issue once before.  The only
solution that I found was to rebuild and use SP1 or
greater.  Once I applied that, I never received the
error again.

I think this is one of the reasons why the packager
system is recommended to be a completely separate
system.

HTH

Michael Saul
--- Anthony_Abraham@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> Hi
>
> Just built a new WTS / MF XPe server and none of my
> packagers want to work
> anymore.  When I try to install any packagers to the
> new server, the job
> starts the install then fails.  The following is
> logged in the target
> server event log:
>
> The description for Event ID ( 1000 ) in Source (
> Gemini Installer ) could
> not be found. It contains the following insertion
> string(s): Failed to
> install Office 97.
>
> Application description file:
> ims20://localhost/7/Office 97.wfs
> The application description file contains a syntax
> or logic error. Section
> [ARVS__ValuPack Component], AddReg(1) Error: Error
> replacing symbols:
> Failed to convert to a short path.
> Context:
> 0\PowerPoint\ValuPack,,%!toshortpath(%TARGETDIR3%\..
>
> All applications give the same error.  Some of the
> files get installed but
> the apps always fail when executed..  These worked
> on my last server so the
> packagers themselves are fine as they haven't been
> modified..  Tried
> re-creating the local host - did nothing.  Has
> anyone had this before?
>
> Anthony
>
>
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Msg: #38 in digest
From: "Schneider, Chad M." <CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Left Handed Mouse
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:54:22 -0500


User has been using left handed mouse since day one of Citrix.  Only change
is upgraded client from 6.20.985 web client to 6.30.1050.  Now users left
handed mouse, is right handed in Citrix seamless windows.  User has roaming
profile.

Thoughts?

Chad M. Schneider
Technology Analyst II
Curwood, Inc.
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Msg: #39 in digest
From: "Brian Politis" <bpolitis@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:11:13 -0400


Use the Corp. HP1100 driver from HP's website.  It works fine.    I also
run the HP1200 driver (Postscript) fine.


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Joris Van Brussel
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:42 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


Hello,

We actually had a lot of problems with laserjets 1100 (still have) they
only
print white pages.
Anybody know a driver that could fix the HP1100?

Thanks in advance for your help and time.


>From: Jason A.Shivok <jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 09:57:23 -0400
>
>Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers?
>They
>dont seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on
XPe
>FR2/SP2. Any input would help.
>
>Thanks,
>Jason
>
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Msg: #40 in digest
From: Jim Kenzig <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] VIRUS ALERT: FRETHEM K
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:51:26 -0400


Trend has updated this one to Medium Risk (which is usually high)
Regards,
Jim Kenzig
http://thethin.net

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=WORM_FRETHEM
.K

WORM_FRETHEM.K
        Risk rating: <glossary.asp>              <glossary.asp>  <glossary.asp>
        Virus type: <glossary.asp>              Worm
        Destructive: <glossary.asp>             No

Aliases: <glossary.asp>
W32.Frethem.K@mm, W32/Frethem.k@MM
Description: <glossary.asp>
This non-destructive, memory-resident variant of WORM_FRETHEM.D propagates
via email. It arrives as an attachment with the following:
Subject: Re: Your password!
Message Body: You can access very important information by this password
DO NOT SAVE password to disk use your mind
now presscancel
Attachment: DECRYPT-PASSWORD.EXE
PASSWORD.TXT
On systems with unpatched IE, the file attachments automatically execute
when this email message is previewed or opened in Microsoft Outlook and
Outlook Express.
Solution: <glossary.asp>
Terminating the Malware Program
You will need the names of the file or files detected earlier as
WORM_FRETHEM.K
        Open Windows Task Manager.
        On Windows 9x/ME systems, press
        CTRL+ALT+DELETE
        On Windows NT/2000/XP systems, press
        CTRL+SHIFT+ESC, and click the Processes tab.
        In the list of running programs*, locate ?Taskbar? or ?Taskbar.exe?.
        Select the program, then press either the End Task or the End Process
button, depending on the version of Windows on your system.
        To check if the malware process has been terminated, close Task Manager,
and then open it again.
        Close Task Manager.
*NOTE: On systems running Windows 9x/ME, Task Manager may not able to show
certain processes. Use a third party process viewer to terminate the malware
process. Otherwise, continue with the next procedure, noting the additional
instructions. Removing Autostart Entries from the Registry
Removing autostart entries from registry prevents the malware from executing
during startup. This effectively terminates the malware process from memory.
        Open Registry Editor. To do this, click Start>Run, type REGEDIT, then 
press
Enter.
        In the left panel, double-click the ff:
        HKEY_CURRENT_USER>Software>Microsoft>
        Windows>CurrentVersion>Run
        In the right panel, locate and delete the entry:
        Task Bar = %Windows%\TASKBAR.EXE
        *Where %Windows% is usually C:\Windows\System or C:\WINNT.
        Close Registry Editor.
        Restart your computer.


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Msg: #41 in digest
From: "M" <mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] O/T its very quiet
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:11:41 +0100

Hello there,

Not many posts to read today. Does this mean evryone's Citrix servers are 
running smoothly ?
Im surprised its very quiet on the Citrix front.

regards



------------------------------

Msg: #42 in digest
From: "Stephen Herrera" <sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Label Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:15:06 -0700


Does anyone know of any label printers out there that work well with Citrix?
We have been recommending and using Dymo LabelWriter Turbo's for a while now
but Dymo has stopped making them and now puts out Dymo LabelWriter 330
Turbo. Of course, the 330 driver no longer works with Citrix. Thanks for any
info.

Steve



------------------------------

Msg: #43 in digest
From: "Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] OT: Novell's NAL and preventing program installation
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:16:07 -0400


Maybe someone will know this one... I have ONE MF server that has to (for
some ungodly reason) run NAL right now.  The problem is that users can then
use NAL to install all sorts of nasty apps I don't want them to.  NAL
apparently uses the system account for install permissions.  I know I can
set an environment variable in the NAL distribution to stop certain apps,
but I have a laundrey list and it would be tedious.  I was hoping someone
knew a down and dirty way of stopping any and all application install.

Thanks,
Paul

------------------------------

Msg: #44 in digest
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:28:11 -0400
From: "Eugene Herman" <EHerman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers


I just sent a note to Dave Block at Dymo - I beleve he is the head of software 
development. Met him at a Dymo focus group - we might get an answer as they are 
customer focused.

>>> sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx 07/15/02 01:15PM >>>
Does anyone know of any label printers out there that work well with Citrix?
We have been recommending and using Dymo LabelWriter Turbo's for a while now
but Dymo has stopped making them and now puts out Dymo LabelWriter 330
Turbo. Of course, the 330 driver no longer works with Citrix. Thanks for any
info.

Steve





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Msg: #45 in digest
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:27:16 -0500
From: Matt Fowler <mfowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Impromptu & Citrix


Does anyone have a successful installation of Impromptu 6 on their Citrix
Win2K server environment? How about an application using the Interbase
Driver to connect to specific databases?

Thanks for any help.
Matt Fowler
LAN Specialist
(847)925-6113
mfowler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

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Msg: #46 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: OT: Novell's NAL and preventing program installation
From: Chi_Lo@xxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 10:39:30 -0700

Go to the property of NetWare client and remove any entry from the
workstation manager.

-Chi







"Stansel, Paul" <Paul.Stansel@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent by: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
07/15/02 10:16 AM
Please respond to thin


        To:     "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
        cc:
        Subject:        [THIN] OT: Novell's NAL and preventing program 
installation




Maybe someone will know this one... I have ONE MF server that has to (for
some ungodly reason) run NAL right now.  The problem is that users can
then
use NAL to install all sorts of nasty apps I don't want them to.  NAL
apparently uses the system account for install permissions.  I know I can
set an environment variable in the NAL distribution to stop certain apps,
but I have a laundrey list and it would be tedious.  I was hoping someone
knew a down and dirty way of stopping any and all application install.

Thanks,
Paul



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Msg: #47 in digest
From: "Kuczura, Tom" <tkuczura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:49:17 -0500

For 'desktop' barcode printing needs - medium to low volume. We've been
using Zebra Technologies Eltron TLP2742 without any issues.
In a NT 4.0 MF 1.8 setup.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Herrera
To: Thin (E-mail 2)
Sent: 7/15/02 12:15 PM
Subject: [THIN] Label Printers

Does anyone know of any label printers out there that work well with
Citrix?
We have been recommending and using Dymo LabelWriter Turbo's for a while
now
but Dymo has stopped making them and now puts out Dymo LabelWriter 330
Turbo. Of course, the 330 driver no longer works with Citrix. Thanks for
any
info.

Steve





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Msg: #48 in digest
From: "Turman, David C." <david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Restore
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:26:22 -0600



        I recently restored a NT 4.0 TSE SP5 and MF 1.8 SP1 server. The
server came back OK, but Citrix is not working.
        Users cannot log into it and from the console if I try to bring up
MFADMIN or any of the Citrix tools, we get

        "You have upgraded to a newer version of Window Terminal Server. You
must reinstall Citrix to use this tool"

        Is there any way to work around this, or is reinstalling Citrix the
only way?


------------------------------

Msg: #49 in digest
From: Joe Shonk <JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T its very quiet
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:27:22 -0700

No, everyone is getting over the shock of Citrix laying off 10% of their
staff.

-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:12 AM
To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] O/T its very quiet


Hello there,

Not many posts to read today. Does this mean evryone's Citrix servers are
running smoothly ?
Im surprised its very quiet on the Citrix front.

regards





------------------------------

Msg: #50 in digest
Subject: [THIN] ACT! 4.0 help please!
From: SPerez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:18:47 -0400


Anyone Please help.

I have a W2K environment. with sp2 and MF XP FR2.

ACT works but when the users trys to create a document with ACT it gives me
"Failed to connect to word processor, ACT! Word Processor " , "The word
processor driver is not running"

It works fine for the admin, but not the normal user.  I have used File
Monitor but don't see anything unusual.  Also have tried  Regmon but don't
know what to implement.

Has anyone experienced this before?  If so please help?

____________________________
Steve Perez



------------------------------

Msg: #51 in digest
From: C.Prickaerts@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 20:56:09 +0200

Hi Stve,

We use Eltron label printers connected to a lantronix box under citrix
without any issues so far...

Greets,

Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Kuczura, Tom [mailto:tkuczura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: maandag 15 juli 2002 19:49
To: 'Thin (E-mail 2) '
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers



For 'desktop' barcode printing needs - medium to low volume. We've been
using Zebra Technologies Eltron TLP2742 without any issues.

In a NT 4.0 MF 1.8 setup.

-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Herrera
To: Thin (E-mail 2)
Sent: 7/15/02 12:15 PM
Subject: [THIN] Label Printers

Does anyone know of any label printers out there that work well with
Citrix?
We have been recommending and using Dymo LabelWriter Turbo's for a while
now
but Dymo has stopped making them and now puts out Dymo LabelWriter 330
Turbo. Of course, the 330 driver no longer works with Citrix. Thanks for
any
info.

Steve





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Msg: #52 in digest
From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Restore
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:57:25 -0700


Hi David,

Note: you are on SP5 - not a bad idea to patch your server.

If you have only one box - uninstall MetaFrame, fix TSE and reinstall
MetaFrame with all patches, activate licenses. It might be your quickest
option.

If you have several servers which are only approved for sp5...

ALEX



>From: "Turman, David C." <david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Restore
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:26:22 -0600
>
>
>       I recently restored a NT 4.0 TSE SP5 and MF 1.8 SP1 server. The
>server came back OK, but Citrix is not working.
>       Users cannot log into it and from the console if I try to bring up
>MFADMIN or any of the Citrix tools, we get
>
>       "You have upgraded to a newer version of Window Terminal Server. You
>must reinstall Citrix to use this tool"
>
>       Is there any way to work around this, or is reinstalling Citrix the
>only way?
>
>
>
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Msg: #53 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Logging in
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:56 -0400
From: "Jonathan K" <newave@xxxxxxxxxx>

I am running W2K and M1.8, I am trying to log in from a client and after
I type in my credentials the screen just freezes and never shows me the
desktop.  Any ideas on why this might be happening?

Thanks,

Jonathan


------------------------------

Msg: #54 in digest
From: "Jon Reynolds" <jonr@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Logging in
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 11:14:08 -0800

MessageYou might already have a seesion open that is hanging because it was
not closed properly.

Jon
  -----Original Message-----
  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jonathan K
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:59 AM
  To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [THIN] Logging in


  I am running W2K and M1.8, I am trying to log in from a client and after I
type in my credentials the screen just freezes and never shows me the
desktop.  Any ideas on why this might be happening?

  Thanks,

  Jonathan



------------------------------

Msg: #55 in digest
From: Jim Kenzig <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:16:07 -0400


I use the plain HP Laserjet 4 with the one I have on my desk just fine.
JK

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Angus Macdonald
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:28 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


We've got several, using the default HP LaserJet 4L driver and they seem
fine.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jason A.Shivok [mailto:jshivok@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: 15 July 2002 14:57
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] hp laserjet 1200 Series Printers


Has anyone had any issues with the HP LaserJet 1200 Series Printers? They
dont seem to be working well since the move to xp. We are currently on XPe
FR2/SP2. Any input would help.

Thanks,
Jason


------------------------------

Msg: #56 in digest
From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Logging in
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 12:14:59 -0700


Hi Jonathan,

The same effect can be achieved by denying access to explorer.exe - user
logs in, gets default desktop background color and ... nothing. Session can
be in this state indefinitely, unless configured to drop idle sessions.

Also check if explorer.exe is there - we had some clients that lost this EXE
due to infection. In this case you will not be able to login as admin even
at the console or otherwise.

ALEX



>From: "Jonathan K" <newave@xxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Logging in
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:56 -0400
>
>I am running W2K and M1.8, I am trying to log in from a client and after
>I type in my credentials the screen just freezes and never shows me the
>desktop.  Any ideas on why this might be happening?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Jonathan




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Msg: #57 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: Logging in
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:16:11 -0400
From: "Jonathan K" <newave@xxxxxxxxxx>

I looked at that there aren't any open sessions.  Thanks though.  Any
other thoughts?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jon Reynolds [mailto:jonr@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:14 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Logging in


You might already have a seesion open that is hanging because it was not
closed properly.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Jonathan K
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:59 AM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Logging in


I am running W2K and M1.8, I am trying to log in from a client and after
I type in my credentials the screen just freezes and never shows me the
desktop.  Any ideas on why this might be happening?

Thanks,

Jonathan



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Msg: #58 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:01:29 -0400



I agree with ED.  We have gone to the DL380 G2 which is a smaller footprint
then the old DL380's same capacity, but we also have had to replace several
fans and power supplies because of heat.




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Honestly,

We got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU fans
going out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5 fans in
as many mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do not
believe just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and not
have problems. The physics of thermal conduction is going to get ya.

For citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons more reliable than the DL 360's
Ed
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
     Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:47
     To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
     Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

     What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The
     5i works quite nicely.

     Joe
          -----Original Message-----
          From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
          Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
          To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

          Hi Dave
          I mean the DL360.
          We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

          I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is
          supported.I have spoken to people at Compaq who say it is
          supported and it isnt supported.

          regards
           ----- Original Message -----
           From: Boatman, Dave
           To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
           Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
           Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

           Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so
           I think you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq
           Product Guide for Feb 02 and both the 360 and the 380 are
           supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or 64Mb Cache)  and the
           5302 Fibre Channel

           HTH.

           Dave Boatman

                -----Original Message-----
                From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
                Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
                To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

                Hi
                Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has
                achieved what im after:

                Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a
                Compaq DL 360 G2 ?
                ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

                regards







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Msg: #59 in digest
From: "Rob Beekmans" <robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: ACT! 4.0 help please!
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:25:27 +0200


When the user has logged on and you check the word processor settings, what
does it say?


grx
Rob


----- Original Message -----
From: <SPerez@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:18 PM
Subject: [THIN] ACT! 4.0 help please!


> Anyone Please help.
>
> I have a W2K environment. with sp2 and MF XP FR2.
>
> ACT works but when the users trys to create a document with ACT it gives
me
> "Failed to connect to word processor, ACT! Word Processor " , "The word
> processor driver is not running"
>
> It works fine for the admin, but not the normal user.  I have used File
> Monitor but don't see anything unusual.  Also have tried  Regmon but don't
> know what to implement.
>
> Has anyone experienced this before?  If so please help?
>
> ____________________________
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>
>
>
>
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Msg: #60 in digest
From: "Rob Beekmans" <robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Restore
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 21:27:11 +0200


would also be my road to succes.
removing and reinstalling citrix is faster than trying to find the problem.

grx
Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 8:57 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Restore


> Hi David,
>
> Note: you are on SP5 - not a bad idea to patch your server.
>
> If you have only one box - uninstall MetaFrame, fix TSE and reinstall
> MetaFrame with all patches, activate licenses. It might be your quickest
> option.
>
> If you have several servers which are only approved for sp5...
>
> ALEX
>
>
>
> >From: "Turman, David C." <david_turman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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> >MFADMIN or any of the Citrix tools, we get
> >
> > "You have upgraded to a newer version of Window Terminal Server. You
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Msg: #61 in digest
From: Evan Mann <emann@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] PNAgent ICA Client
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:31:17 -0400


I am investigating switchiong from the ICA32 Web Client to the PNAgent
client
for ease of use on my users, having one less thing to login to (thus we
would use pass-through authentication for the client).

In any event, I've run into two scenarios that I'm wondering if anyone else
has dealth with

1) If the PNAgent Client launches and you do not have a network connection
to the Citrix server, it gets an error and gives you the ability to CANCEL
(closes the agent), say NO which lets you change the URL location of the
server, or say NO which waits another predetermined timeout period (seems to
be 10 seconds).

The problem I have with this is if someone says YES, they are free to change
the URL.  This is something I don't want end users doing.  Is there a way to
disable this ability.  And is there a way to alter this specific timeout in
which the client connects to the webserver.

2) If the PNAgent Client has successfully connected and created icons to
published applications, but you then loose network connection to the server,
clicking shortcuts doesn't yield any error messages at all, the computer
just sits there like you didn't do anything.  This frustrates users.  Is
there any way to enable some type of dialog box in this situation?

If you ask why I'm concerned about these situations, the reason is two fold.
I have users on VPN connections that are cable/DSL based.  Sometimes their
connections terminate.  While they autoreconnect, sometimes they don't
negotiate, and sometimes internet connections are just down.  All of which
can cause the above situations to occur.






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Msg: #62 in digest
From: "Sean Casey" <casey@xxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:34:50 -0400

RE: [THIN] Label PrintersThe 330 does indeed work with Citrix.

Are you running with Win NT 4.0???

It does work with Win 2K.

-Sean
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Kuczura, Tom
  To: 'Thin (E-mail 2) '
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:49 PM
  Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers


  For 'desktop' barcode printing needs - medium to low volume. We've been using 
Zebra Technologies Eltron TLP2742 without any issues.

  In a NT 4.0 MF 1.8 setup.

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Stephen Herrera
  To: Thin (E-mail 2)
  Sent: 7/15/02 12:15 PM
  Subject: [THIN] Label Printers

  Does anyone know of any label printers out there that work well with
  Citrix?
  We have been recommending and using Dymo LabelWriter Turbo's for a while
  now
  but Dymo has stopped making them and now puts out Dymo LabelWriter 330
  Turbo. Of course, the 330 driver no longer works with Citrix. Thanks for
  any
  info.

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Msg: #63 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Scripts and Published Applications
From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:44:00 -0400



We are currently running script that utilizes ifmember.exe to see what nt
group a user belongs to.  This seems to work for 95% of all users.  Of the
5% that it does not work, if we sign on to citrix box locally the script
runs perfectly.  The script runs only when the user log's on.  We added the
script to run in the registry key - \\hkey local
machine\software\microsoft\windows nt\current version\win logon.  Has
anyone else seen a problem when running scripts and published applications?
Is there a tool that will allow an administrator to monitor what is being
called and ran when a user clicks on a published application?  Is there a
better way to have this script ran when ever a user signs on?

XPe 1.8 metaframe
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Ray Albert


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Msg: #64 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:47:54 -0400



Let me clarify the power supply replacement was for the DL360'S not the
DL380'S.  Have not a problem with the DL380's.



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I agree with ED.  We have gone to the DL380 G2 which is a smaller footprint
then the old DL380's same capacity, but we also have had to replace several
fans and power supplies because of heat.




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Honestly,

We got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU fans
going out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5 fans in
as many mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do not
believe just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and not
have problems. The physics of thermal conduction is going to get ya.

For citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons more reliable than the DL 360's
Ed
     -----Original Message-----
     From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
     Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:47
     To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
     Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

     What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The
     5i works quite nicely.

     Joe
          -----Original Message-----
          From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
          Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
          To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
          Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

          Hi Dave
          I mean the DL360.
          We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

          I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is
          supported.I have spoken to people at Compaq who say it is
          supported and it isnt supported.

          regards
           ----- Original Message -----
           From: Boatman, Dave
           To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
           Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
           Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360

           Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so
           I think you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq
           Product Guide for Feb 02 and both the 360 and the 380 are
           supported platforms for the 5302 ( 32 or 64Mb Cache)  and the
           5302 Fibre Channel

           HTH.

           Dave Boatman

                -----Original Message-----
                From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
                Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
                To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
                Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360

                Hi
                Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has
                achieved what im after:

                Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a
                Compaq DL 360 G2 ?
                ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i

                regards







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Msg: #65 in digest
From: "Stephen Herrera" <sherrera@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:01:45 -0700

I am running it on w2k sp2/MF 1.8 sp3. For me if I have the old LabelWriter
Turbo and print a test page no problem. If I install the 330 it will not
even print a test page. Did you do anything special to get it going?

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf
Of Sean Casey
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 12:35 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers

The 330 does indeed work with Citrix.

Are you running with Win NT 4.0???

It does work with Win 2K.

-Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: Kuczura, Tom <mailto:tkuczura@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 'Thin (E-mail 2) ' <mailto:thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:49 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: Label Printers

For 'desktop' barcode printing needs - medium to low volume. We've been
using Zebra Technologies Eltron TLP2742 without any issues.
In a NT 4.0 MF 1.8 setup.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stephen Herrera
To: Thin (E-mail 2)
Sent: 7/15/02 12:15 PM
Subject: [THIN] Label Printers
Does anyone know of any label printers out there that work well with
Citrix?
We have been recommending and using Dymo LabelWriter Turbo's for a while
now
but Dymo has stopped making them and now puts out Dymo LabelWriter 330
Turbo. Of course, the 330 driver no longer works with Citrix. Thanks for
any
info.
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Msg: #66 in digest
From: "Mike Semon" <msemon@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:03:14 -0500

Also, with the DL 360 Pizza boxes many of the components are integrated with
the motherboard.  I had
to replace a few motherboards because we could not replace components. We
had mixed success
with the DL 360's. The DL 380 and DL 580 are much more reliable.

Mike
  -----Original Message-----
  From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Ziots, Edward
  Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:06 AM
  To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
  Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


  Honestly,

  We got DL360 Pizza Boxes here, and there is a big problem with the CPU
fans going out and causing the servers to drop, I have had to replace 5 fans
in as many mobnths and sometimes the same fan on the same system.  Do not
believe just because they are 1U that you can stick 42 in a box and not have
problems. The physics of thermal conduction is going to get ya.

  For citrix servers, I believe a DL380 is a much sturdier box, and has been
tons more reliable than the DL 360's
  Ed
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Joe Shonk [mailto:JShonk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
    Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:47
    To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
    Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


    What is the purpose of putting a 5302 controller into the box???  The 5i
works quite nicely.

    Joe
      -----Original Message-----
      From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
      Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 6:55 AM
      To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


      Hi Dave
      I mean the DL360.
      We are looking at quite a few in a 42u rack .. space is tight.

      I have read the product guides and it does indeed say it is
supported.I have spoken to people at Compaq who say it is supported and it
isnt supported.

      regards
        ----- Original Message -----
        From: Boatman, Dave
        To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
        Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:33 PM
        Subject: [THIN] Re: O/T Question about Compaq DL360


        Don't you mean the 380 ?... The 360 only has 2 drive bays and so I
think you'd be wasting your cash. I've looked in the Compaq Product Guide
for Feb 02 and both the 360 and the 380 are supported platforms for the 5302
( 32 or 64Mb Cache)  and the 5302 Fibre Channel



        HTH.



        Dave Boatman



        -----Original Message-----
        From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
        Sent: 15 July 2002 13:49
        To: Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
        Subject: [THIN] O/T Question about Compaq DL360



        Hi

        Bit off topic but i was just wondering if anyone has achieved what
im after:



        Is it possible to add a Compaq 5302 Raid Controller into a Compaq DL
360 G2 ?

        ie adding the 5300 internally and bypassing the onboard 5i



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Msg: #67 in digest
From: John Twilley <John.Twilley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] RDP vs. ICA -
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:13:59 -0400



Upper-Management would like me to provide information regarding RDP 5.x vs.
ICA.
I have scouted around and found OLD documents, but I am coming up dry on new
comparisons...

Has anyone been down this road?
I would love to hear how you handled defending Citrix Metaframe...assuming
you did.


What I've found:

http://www.thinplanet.com/opinion/Protocols.asp  old - 1999

http://www.stiv.com/ncd/comp/benchresults.htm   Thin Client Stats

http://www.stiv.com/ncd/comp/rdp4v5.htm  RDP vs ICA  (Early release of RDP
5)

One of the major digs against RDP so far is LOAD Balancing.  Microsoft's
implementation of load balancing is scary.
i.e. glorified round-robin DNS



Thanks,


John Twilley
Catalina Marketing

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Msg: #68 in digest
From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP vs. ICA -
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 13:30:20 -0700


Hi John,

This is a hot, I would say explosive subject.

To be fair, you should give your management information not about which
protocol is better (faster, lower latency, higher compression, more
features, etc.), but what business objectives are met by delivering
applications via MetaFrame or pure Terminal Services.

There is much more to it versus what the end user can see.

Ultimately load balancing, seamless nature of application delivery, firewall
traversal with Citrix Secure Gateway and NFuse with strong authentication
(not just encryption!!) highlight the need for ICA.

If your search this group you will find the latest, i.e. 2002, "benchmarks"
for ICA, RDP + SUN, AT&T, etc. thin client connectivity. Although these
papers might be helpful to get something on the table for the management,
they are not very impressive and are always outdated.

So, unless this is a formality, look at the big picture.

ALEX


>From: John Twilley <John.Twilley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] RDP vs. ICA - Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:13:59 -0400
>
>
>Upper-Management would like me to provide information regarding RDP 5.x vs.
>ICA.
>I have scouted around and found OLD documents, but I am coming up dry on
>new
>comparisons...
>
>Has anyone been down this road?
>I would love to hear how you handled defending Citrix Metaframe...assuming
>you did.
>
>
>What I've found:
>
>http://www.thinplanet.com/opinion/Protocols.asp  old - 1999
>
>http://www.stiv.com/ncd/comp/benchresults.htm   Thin Client Stats
>
>http://www.stiv.com/ncd/comp/rdp4v5.htm  RDP vs ICA  (Early release of RDP
>5)
>
>One of the major digs against RDP so far is LOAD Balancing.  Microsoft's
>implementation of load balancing is scary.
>i.e. glorified round-robin DNS
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>
>
>John Twilley
>Catalina Marketing
>
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Msg: #69 in digest
From: "Rob Beekmans" <robbeekmans@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP vs. ICA -
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 22:43:03 +0200


look at tweakcitrix / shared files there's a document comparing them both

grx
Rob

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:30 PM
Subject: [THIN] Re: RDP vs. ICA -


> Hi John,
>
> This is a hot, I would say explosive subject.
>
> To be fair, you should give your management information not about which
> protocol is better (faster, lower latency, higher compression, more
> features, etc.), but what business objectives are met by delivering
> applications via MetaFrame or pure Terminal Services.
>
> There is much more to it versus what the end user can see.
>
> Ultimately load balancing, seamless nature of application delivery,
firewall
> traversal with Citrix Secure Gateway and NFuse with strong authentication
> (not just encryption!!) highlight the need for ICA.
>
> If your search this group you will find the latest, i.e. 2002,
"benchmarks"
> for ICA, RDP + SUN, AT&T, etc. thin client connectivity. Although these
> papers might be helpful to get something on the table for the management,
> they are not very impressive and are always outdated.
>
> So, unless this is a formality, look at the big picture.
>
> ALEX
>
>
> >From: John Twilley <John.Twilley@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: "'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Subject: [THIN] RDP vs. ICA - Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 16:13:59 -0400
> >
> >
> >Upper-Management would like me to provide information regarding RDP 5.x
vs.
> >ICA.
> >I have scouted around and found OLD documents, but I am coming up dry on
> >new
> >comparisons...
> >
> >Has anyone been down this road?
> >I would love to hear how you handled defending Citrix
Metaframe...assuming
> >you did.
> >
> >
> >What I've found:
> >
> >http://www.thinplanet.com/opinion/Protocols.asp  old - 1999
> >
> >http://www.stiv.com/ncd/comp/benchresults.htm   Thin Client Stats
> >
> >http://www.stiv.com/ncd/comp/rdp4v5.htm  RDP vs ICA  (Early release of
RDP
> >5)
> >
> >One of the major digs against RDP so far is LOAD Balancing.  Microsoft's
> >implementation of load balancing is scary.
> >i.e. glorified round-robin DNS
> >
> >
> >
> >Thanks,
> >
> >
> >John Twilley
> >Catalina Marketing
> >
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Msg: #70 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Re: Scripts and Published Applications
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:43:56 -0500
From: "Ron Oglesby" <roglesby@xxxxxxxxxxxx>


One way to check to see if it is the script would be to login at the
console as the user and execute it as the user. See if it errors out or
what...

-----Original Message-----
From: Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Ray.Albert@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:44 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Scripts and Published Applications


We are currently running script that utilizes ifmember.exe to see what
nt
group a user belongs to.  This seems to work for 95% of all users.  Of
the
5% that it does not work, if we sign on to citrix box locally the script
runs perfectly.  The script runs only when the user log's on.  We added
the
script to run in the registry key - \\hkey local
machine\software\microsoft\windows nt\current version\win logon.  Has
anyone else seen a problem when running scripts and published
applications?
Is there a tool that will allow an administrator to monitor what is
being
called and ran when a user clicks on a published application?  Is there
a
better way to have this script ran when ever a user signs on?

XPe 1.8 metaframe
Windows 2000

Ray Albert




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Msg: #71 in digest
From: "Selinger, Stephen" <SSelinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Auto Created Printers
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:58:20 -0600

Good Afternoon,

I have users connecting to published applications via Nfuse.  I have setup
redirected client printers for only the main client printer.  Users can not
see or use printers until the "connect" them with the ICA Client Printer
Configuration (printcfg.exe) tool.  I am wondering if this is by design or
if I have something configured incorrectly.  When users launch the ICA
Client printer Configuration tool they see two entries for each printer.
One is using the Lexmark driver and the other is using the Citrix Universal
Print driver.  I have set the print drivers tab in the CMC to use only the
universal drive.  I am hoping that I am missing something simple.

Thanks in advance,

Stephen Selinger
Special Projects & Innovations Analyst
Chinook Health Region
PH: (403) 382-6176
sselinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx





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Msg: #72 in digest
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 17:09:16 -0400
From: "Erik Gerard" <GERARDE@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Left Handed Mouse


I believe that is a known bug in that version of the Citrix client.
Erik

>>> CMSchneider@xxxxxxxxx 07/15/02 11:54AM >>>
User has been using left handed mouse since day one of Citrix.  Only change
is upgraded client from 6.20.985 web client to 6.30.1050.  Now users left
handed mouse, is right handed in Citrix seamless windows.  User has roaming
profile.

Thoughts?

Chad M. Schneider
Technology Analyst II
Curwood, Inc.
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Msg: #73 in digest
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 09:54:54 +1200
From: Drazen Vidakovic <drazen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.


Well, that one did not work. I still have "I/O error" and with NFuse and CSG is
specifically problematic because users are losing faith in this kind of
scenario.

Any suggestion is wellcome.

Drazen

At 16:33 11/07/2002 +1200, you wrote:
>Actually, I have one NT4/MFXP on the same LAN doing one specific application.
>Totally different farm.
>You recon, that can cause all this problems? This server was running for
>last 2 months.
>
>I'll disable XML services on NT4 and I'll see what happens in next couple
>of days.
>
>Drazen
>
>At 15:45 10/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>The onlything I can image why you would get this error intermittantly is
>>if you do have another MetaFrame sever on the same segment (IP subnet)
>>that has the XML service installed, and the XML service is configured on
>>another port number.  Possibly a 1.8 server?  Do you have the XP farm
>>running in Native mode?
>>
>>Also, fire up CMC, right-click on your server, and in the GENERAL tab
>>see what IP address it has.  Then, run IPCONFIG and see if the IP
>>addresses match, which they should.
>>
>>CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>>NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>>NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>>Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:18 PM
>>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>>Importance: High
>>
>>
>>Unfortunately, I had settings exactly like in that article. Yesterday, I
>>connected/disconnected 20 times in a row. Click on file on desktop and
>>cancel out of it. 4 times connect, then 5 times "I/O error" and then OK
>>again.
>>
>>Is there any way of tracing down on W2K what is happening, log files,
>>anything?
>>
>>Drazen
>>
>>At 08:41 10/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Well, I was wrong about the possibiilty of an MS patch breaking
>>something within IMA or the XML service.  It appears to be a
>>Datacollector problem (or "by design").  You can read this article which
>>I just happened to come across right now:
>>
>>http://hqextsrvsft01.citrix.com/cgi-bin/webcgi.exe/,/?Session=3914457,U=
>>1,ST
>>=79,N=0005,K=10657,SXI=5,Case=obj(16124)
>>(text may be wrapped)
>>
>>I have adjusted what the article says to do, and I am now able to
>>connect to the MetaFrame server without problem.  I believe that this is
>>only caused by the fact that you have only One MF XP server.  I have
>>another farm that is not on the same physical network, nor in the same
>>company.  It has 3 servers witin a Native farm, and that has no issues
>>what so ever.
>>
>>I am interested to see if Drazen and Danny can use this and resolve
>>there same problem also.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>>NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>>NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>>Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:45 PM
>>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>Microsoft Patches:
>>
>>Q147222
>>Q272582
>>Q288165
>>
>>Q305713
>>Q283014
>>
>>Last two were put this Saturday, they are just printing related. At some
>>stage, I was suspecting DNS so I put one more on another machine
>>just as a backup.
>>Still same problem.
>>
>>Drazen
>>
>>At 15:31 9/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Thanks.  What Microsoft patches do you have installed?  Just list out
>> >the Q numbers, and I can research what they are.
>> >
>> >The only instance (besides this one) that I have encountered this error
>>
>> >was when we didn't have our MF 1.8 servers configured with the XML
>> >service on the same port number.  Once we set all of them to the same
>> >port number, the error went away.
>> >
>> >This one is not the case here.
>> >
>> >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>> >Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
>> >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:29 PM
>> >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> >
>> >
>> >At the moment we have only one W2K/XP server in our group. This one was
>>
>> >the first, and I am just doing second one.
>> >
>> >It is part of a domain, PDC is in different site, but BDC is right
>> >beside. We do not run Active directory. Server is on W2K SP2 / XPaFR1
>> >Also I have Citrix patches. XE101W007,XE101W009,XE101W015,XE101W016
>> >
>> >Problem we are experiencing is very recent. For four months we had only
>>
>> >about 20 users on single machine. All users were connecting to
>> >published desktop. Two weeks ago I
>> >
>> >deployed another 30 users
>> >and then problem started.
>> >
>> >Also, what I noticed is that I have less then 30 users logged in, I
>> >don't have problem, 30 or more
>> >can't connect. Also, problem is not consistent, one minute user can
>> >connect, next minute "I/O Error".
>> >With this error, NFuse (and CSG) don't work and that is annoying.
>> >
>> >When I tried to connect to server to port 80:
>> >
>> >HTTP/1.1 400 Bad request
>> >Server: Citrix Web PN Server
>> >Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:22:41 GMT
>> >Connection: Close
>> >
>> >By the way, I am using ICA file to connect, not Citrix Program
>> >Neighborhood. File is attached.
>> >
>> >
>> >[WFClient]
>> >Version=2
>> >TcpBrowserAddress=10.89.1.20 HttpBrowserAddress=wnmf1.printlink.co.nz
>> >KeyboardLayout=(User Profile)
>> >KeyboardType=(Default)
>> >Domain=BSPG
>> >
>> >[ApplicationServers]
>> >WgtnFull=
>> >
>> >[WgtnFull]
>> >Address=WgtnFull
>> >InitialProgram=#WgtnFull
>> >ClientAudio=Off
>> >Compress=On
>> >ScreenPercent=95
>> >DesiredColor=2
>> ># DesiredHRES=4294967295
>> ># DesiredVRES=4294967295
>> >TransportDriver=TCP/IP
>> >WinStationDriver=ICA 3.0
>> >BrowserProtocol=HTTPonTCP
>> >EncryptionLevelSession=EncRC5-0
>> >
>> >[EncRC5-0]
>> >DriverNameWin32=PDC0N.DLL
>> >DriverNameWin16=PDC0W.DLL
>> >
>> >[Compress]
>> >DriverName=PDCOMP.DLL
>> >DriverNameWin16=PDCOMPW.DLL
>> >DriverNameWin32=PDCOMPN.DLL
>> >
>> >At 08:48 8/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>> > >Thanks for the suggestion.  I did put the server farm into
>> > >Compatibility mode, and the clients were able to connect.  It appears
>>
>> > >that there might be an XML bug with FR2/SP2.
>> > >
>> > >Maybe Drazen can test this out and see if his client can connect to
>> > >the
>> >
>> > >published app.
>> > >
>> > >Also, Drazen.  What does your farm look like?  How many servers?  Are
>>
>> > >they part of a domain, or a workgroup?  What Feature Release are you
>> > >running?  Service Packs?
>> > >
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:57 PM
>> > >To: 'lynch00@xxxxxxx'
>> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hi Chris,
>> > >Sorry. I sent my answer without reading the rest of your message,
>> > >hence
>> >
>> > >the redundancy. When you telnet to the XML port, I'm assuming that
>> > >you get a response after hitting the return key a few times. That
>> > >establishes XML is working. A quick and dirty test is to turn on MF
>> > >1.8 compatibility mode via the farm properties in the CMC. Set your
>> > >ICA client up to use TCP/IP (NOT tcpip/http). Published apps "should"
>>
>> > >work. This will at least establish that there isn't something really
>> > >gross happening.
>> > >Let me know if that works, because then we may be able to do
>>something
>> > >structured.
>> > >Regards,
>> > >Rick
>> > >Ulrich Mack
>> > >rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Volante Solutions
>> > >18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
>> > >Queensland Australia.
>> > >tel +61 7 3246 7777
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 8:00 AM
>> > >To: 'Mack, Rick'
>> > >Cc: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >Importance: High
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Rick,
>> > >Yes, I agree that it has to be a browsing issue.  I have already
>> > >tried to telnet to port 80, and every other port I set the XML
>> > >Service to listen on.  I can successfully telnet to that port.  When
>> > >I try to initiate a session to a published application, the system is
>>
>> > >in a TIME_WAIT state when trying to connect to the XML port.  It
>> > >appears that the server is not sending back any information that the
>> > >client is requesting. I already know how the client tries to get a
>> > >published application.  My problem is what is causing this? Like I
>> > >said, there is no firewall at all (software or hardware) in between
>> > >the client and the server. Has anyone experienced this at all?
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:15 PM
>> > >To: 'lynch00@xxxxxxx'
>> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hi Chris,
>> > >Connecting directly to the server doesn't require any ICA client
>> > >server
>> >
>> > >browsing. If you're connecting to a published application, the ICA
>> > >client has to find any metaframe server, get redirected to the data
>> > >collector for that zone and then query the it to get redirected to a
>> > >server hosting the published application. The 6.3 clients use
>> > >TCP/IP+HTTP by default. So the client needs to be directed to one of
>> > >the servers in the zone, either by defining a server address list, or
>>
>> > >by having a DNS entry in your domain (ica) which points to your
>> > >metaframe servers. If you don't have a server list defined on the
>> > >client, or an appropriate DNS entry, nothing happens. Another
>> > >essential component of the published app resolution process is the
>> > >XML service on the Metaframe servers. If this isn't working, or
>> > >you've changed the default port address (80) to something else,
>> > >things won't work. Try "telnet metaframe_server_ip 80, and hit return
>>
>> > >a few times, you should get a response. If you've got IIS running on
>> > >the Metaframe servers as well, check the XML service is running (net
>> > >start) or if its running on a non-standard port address (defined at
>> > >metaframe installation time) then the ICA clients will need to be
>> > >changed accordingly. Regards, Rick
>> > >Ulrich Mack
>> > >rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Volante Solutions
>> > >18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
>> > >Queensland Australia.
>> > >tel +61 7 3246 7777
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2002 5:26 AM
>> > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Anyone have any suggestions?
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>
>> > >Behalf Of Chris Lynch
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:59 PM
>> > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Subject: [THIN] Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> > >Hash: SHA1
>> > >I have a test server that is running Windows 2000 Server with Service
>>
>> > >Pack 2, SRP1SP2, MetaFrame Xpe with SP2/FR2, and I have a problem
>> > >connecting clients to published apps.  Users can make a connection to
>>
>> > >the server using RDP or ICA, but only a Custom application connection
>>
>> > >TO THE SERVER ONLY.  Even if they specify an application to connect
>> > >to in the Custom ICA Connections, they receive "I/O Error."  The ICA
>> > >client ver is 6.30.1050 Like I said, I can connect directly to the
>> > >server, but not to a Published App. This server is in a workgroup,
>> > >and I do have Local users and groups configured.  I remember seeing
>> > >an article on Citrix talking about there are some missing REG keys
>> > >for the
>> >
>> > >ICA protocol, but I cannot find it anymore.  I don't remember if that
>>
>> > >article deals with this issue. I do have the FR set on the server.  I
>>
>> > >can manage it via the Citrix Management Console.  But my test users
>> > >get
>> >
>> > >the infamous "I/O Error". Also, they are not going through a
>> > >firewall, they are on the same IP subnet, I do have the XML Service
>> > >listenng on the correct port, and the clients are configured with the
>>
>> > >correct port for the XML service (which is the default). Anyone have
>> > >any suggestions? Thanks, CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
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Msg: #74 in digest
From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Internet Explorer Settings.
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:53:03 -0700


Hi all.

I know that I had found a MS KB Article on how to remove the window for
"Setting Up Personalized Settings" for Windows NT 4 Terminal Server
Edition.  I forgot what the reg key was to prevent this from coming up
and eating CPU resources.

Thanks,


CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406



-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Selinger, Stephen
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:58 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Auto Created Printers


Good Afternoon,
I have users connecting to published applications via Nfuse.  I have
setup redirected client printers for only the main client printer.
Users can not see or use printers until the "connect" them with the ICA
Client Printer Configuration (printcfg.exe) tool.  I am wondering if
this is by design or if I have something configured incorrectly.  When
users launch the ICA Client printer Configuration tool they see two
entries for each printer.  One is using the Lexmark driver and the other
is using the Citrix Universal Print driver.  I have set the print
drivers tab in the CMC to use only the universal drive.  I am hoping
that I am missing something simple.
Thanks in advance,
Stephen Selinger
Special Projects & Innovations Analyst
Chinook Health Region
PH: (403) 382-6176
sselinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx


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Msg: #75 in digest
From: "Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net"; <jimkenz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Internet Explorer Settings.
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:00:18 -0400


http://thethin.net/faqs2.cfm?id=128&category=1
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Chris Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:53 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Internet Explorer Settings.


Hi all.

I know that I had found a MS KB Article on how to remove the window for
"Setting Up Personalized Settings" for Windows NT 4 Terminal Server
Edition.  I forgot what the reg key was to prevent this from coming up
and eating CPU resources.

Thanks,


CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406



-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Selinger, Stephen
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:58 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Auto Created Printers


Good Afternoon,
I have users connecting to published applications via Nfuse.  I have
setup redirected client printers for only the main client printer.
Users can not see or use printers until the "connect" them with the ICA
Client Printer Configuration (printcfg.exe) tool.  I am wondering if
this is by design or if I have something configured incorrectly.  When
users launch the ICA Client printer Configuration tool they see two
entries for each printer.  One is using the Lexmark driver and the other
is using the Citrix Universal Print driver.  I have set the print
drivers tab in the CMC to use only the universal drive.  I am hoping
that I am missing something simple.
Thanks in advance,
Stephen Selinger
Special Projects & Innovations Analyst
Chinook Health Region
PH: (403) 382-6176
sselinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx




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Msg: #76 in digest
From: Fred Pabia <FPabia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Nfuse
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:57:26 -0600

I am trying to run an application using nfuse and instead of the application
launching, I get a Remote Application Runtime window coming up. It displays
command line usage and an OK button and when I click on OK, nothing happens.
What am I missing, please.
Thanks.

Frederick R. Pabia
Calgary Public Library
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Msg: #77 in digest
From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Internet Explorer Settings.
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:20:55 -0700


Thanks.  I remember that deleting the reg keys doesn't allow some
components of Internet Explorer to run.  Has anyone experienced this?

Thanks,

CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jim Kenzig http://thethin.net
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:00 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Internet Explorer Settings.


http://thethin.net/faqs2.cfm?id=128&category=1
Jim


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
Behalf Of Chris Lynch
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:53 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Internet Explorer Settings.


Hi all.

I know that I had found a MS KB Article on how to remove the window for
"Setting Up Personalized Settings" for Windows NT 4 Terminal Server
Edition.  I forgot what the reg key was to prevent this from coming up
and eating CPU resources.

Thanks,


CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406



-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Selinger, Stephen
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:58 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Auto Created Printers


Good Afternoon,
I have users connecting to published applications via Nfuse.  I have
setup redirected client printers for only the main client printer. Users
can not see or use printers until the "connect" them with the ICA Client
Printer Configuration (printcfg.exe) tool.  I am wondering if this is by
design or if I have something configured incorrectly.  When users launch
the ICA Client printer Configuration tool they see two entries for each
printer.  One is using the Lexmark driver and the other is using the
Citrix Universal Print driver.  I have set the print drivers tab in the
CMC to use only the universal drive.  I am hoping that I am missing
something simple.
Thanks in advance,
Stephen Selinger
Special Projects & Innovations Analyst
Chinook Health Region
PH: (403) 382-6176
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Msg: #78 in digest
From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:19:56 -0700


I didn't mean disable the XML service, but rather make sure that both
servers are listening on the same TCP port for the XML service.  For
instance, if you have one server with the XMP service configured to
listen to TCP port 2000, and another server listening on TCP port 80,
then you WILL get the infamous "I/O Error".  Both servers need to be
listening on one or the other, not both.  Also, you cannot disable the
XML port on one of the servers, unless your MF XP server is running in
Native Mode.  Then either one will not "know" about each other.

CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:55 PM
To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.


Well, that one did not work. I still have "I/O error" and with NFuse and
CSG is specifically problematic because users are losing faith in this
kind of
scenario.

Any suggestion is wellcome.

Drazen

At 16:33 11/07/2002 +1200, you wrote:
>Actually, I have one NT4/MFXP on the same LAN doing one specific
>application. Totally different farm. You recon, that can cause all this

>problems? This server was running for last 2 months.
>
>I'll disable XML services on NT4 and I'll see what happens in next
>couple
>of days.
>
>Drazen
>
>At 15:45 10/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>The onlything I can image why you would get this error intermittantly
>>is if you do have another MetaFrame sever on the same segment (IP
>>subnet) that has the XML service installed, and the XML service is
>>configured on another port number.  Possibly a 1.8 server?  Do you
>>have the XP farm running in Native mode?
>>
>>Also, fire up CMC, right-click on your server, and in the GENERAL tab
>>see what IP address it has.  Then, run IPCONFIG and see if the IP
>>addresses match, which they should.
>>
>>CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>>NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>>NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>>Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
>>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:18 PM
>>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>>Importance: High
>>
>>
>>Unfortunately, I had settings exactly like in that article. Yesterday,

>>I connected/disconnected 20 times in a row. Click on file on desktop
>>and cancel out of it. 4 times connect, then 5 times "I/O error" and
>>then OK again.
>>
>>Is there any way of tracing down on W2K what is happening, log files,
>>anything?
>>
>>Drazen
>>
>>At 08:41 10/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>
>>
>>Well, I was wrong about the possibiilty of an MS patch breaking
>>something within IMA or the XML service.  It appears to be a
>>Datacollector problem (or "by design").  You can read this article
>>which I just happened to come across right now:
>>
>>http://hqextsrvsft01.citrix.com/cgi-bin/webcgi.exe/,/?Session=3914457,
>>U=
>>1,ST
>>=79,N=0005,K=10657,SXI=5,Case=obj(16124)
>>(text may be wrapped)
>>
>>I have adjusted what the article says to do, and I am now able to
>>connect to the MetaFrame server without problem.  I believe that this
>>is only caused by the fact that you have only One MF XP server.  I
>>have another farm that is not on the same physical network, nor in the

>>same company.  It has 3 servers witin a Native farm, and that has no
>>issues what so ever.
>>
>>I am interested to see if Drazen and Danny can use this and resolve
>>there same problem also.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>>NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>>NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>>Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>>Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
>>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:45 PM
>>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>>
>>
>>Thank you.
>>Microsoft Patches:
>>
>>Q147222
>>Q272582
>>Q288165
>>
>>Q305713
>>Q283014
>>
>>Last two were put this Saturday, they are just printing related. At
>>some stage, I was suspecting DNS so I put one more on another machine
>>just as a backup. Still same problem.
>>
>>Drazen
>>
>>At 15:31 9/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>> >Thanks.  What Microsoft patches do you have installed?  Just list
>> >out the Q numbers, and I can research what they are.
>> >
>> >The only instance (besides this one) that I have encountered this
>> >error
>>
>> >was when we didn't have our MF 1.8 servers configured with the XML
>> >service on the same port number.  Once we set all of them to the
>> >same port number, the error went away.
>> >
>> >This one is not the case here.
>> >
>> >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> >
>> >
>> >-----Original Message-----
>> >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> >On Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
>> >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:29 PM
>> >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> >
>> >
>> >At the moment we have only one W2K/XP server in our group. This one
>> >was
>>
>> >the first, and I am just doing second one.
>> >
>> >It is part of a domain, PDC is in different site, but BDC is right
>> >beside. We do not run Active directory. Server is on W2K SP2 /
>> >XPaFR1 Also I have Citrix patches.
>> >XE101W007,XE101W009,XE101W015,XE101W016
>> >
>> >Problem we are experiencing is very recent. For four months we had
>> >only
>>
>> >about 20 users on single machine. All users were connecting to
>> >published desktop. Two weeks ago I
>> >
>> >deployed another 30 users
>> >and then problem started.
>> >
>> >Also, what I noticed is that I have less then 30 users logged in, I
>> >don't have problem, 30 or more can't connect. Also, problem is not
>> >consistent, one minute user can connect, next minute "I/O Error".
>> >With this error, NFuse (and CSG) don't work and that is annoying.
>> >
>> >When I tried to connect to server to port 80:
>> >
>> >HTTP/1.1 400 Bad request
>> >Server: Citrix Web PN Server
>> >Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:22:41 GMT
>> >Connection: Close
>> >
>> >By the way, I am using ICA file to connect, not Citrix Program
>> >Neighborhood. File is attached.
>> >
>> >
>> >[WFClient]
>> >Version=2
>> >TcpBrowserAddress=10.89.1.20
>> >HttpBrowserAddress=wnmf1.printlink.co.nz
>> >KeyboardLayout=(User Profile)
>> >KeyboardType=(Default)
>> >Domain=BSPG
>> >
>> >[ApplicationServers]
>> >WgtnFull=
>> >
>> >[WgtnFull]
>> >Address=WgtnFull
>> >InitialProgram=#WgtnFull
>> >ClientAudio=Off
>> >Compress=On
>> >ScreenPercent=95
>> >DesiredColor=2
>> ># DesiredHRES=4294967295
>> ># DesiredVRES=4294967295
>> >TransportDriver=TCP/IP
>> >WinStationDriver=ICA 3.0
>> >BrowserProtocol=HTTPonTCP
>> >EncryptionLevelSession=EncRC5-0
>> >
>> >[EncRC5-0]
>> >DriverNameWin32=PDC0N.DLL
>> >DriverNameWin16=PDC0W.DLL
>> >
>> >[Compress]
>> >DriverName=PDCOMP.DLL
>> >DriverNameWin16=PDCOMPW.DLL
>> >DriverNameWin32=PDCOMPN.DLL
>> >
>> >At 08:48 8/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>> > >Thanks for the suggestion.  I did put the server farm into
>> > >Compatibility mode, and the clients were able to connect.  It
>> > >appears
>>
>> > >that there might be an XML bug with FR2/SP2.
>> > >
>> > >Maybe Drazen can test this out and see if his client can connect
>> > >to the
>> >
>> > >published app.
>> > >
>> > >Also, Drazen.  What does your farm look like?  How many servers?
>> > >Are
>>
>> > >they part of a domain, or a workgroup?  What Feature Release are
>> > >you running?  Service Packs?
>> > >
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:57 PM
>> > >To: 'lynch00@xxxxxxx'
>> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hi Chris,
>> > >Sorry. I sent my answer without reading the rest of your message,
>> > >hence
>> >
>> > >the redundancy. When you telnet to the XML port, I'm assuming that

>> > >you get a response after hitting the return key a few times. That
>> > >establishes XML is working. A quick and dirty test is to turn on
>> > >MF 1.8 compatibility mode via the farm properties in the CMC. Set
>> > >your ICA client up to use TCP/IP (NOT tcpip/http). Published apps
>> > >"should"
>>
>> > >work. This will at least establish that there isn't something
>> > >really gross happening. Let me know if that works, because then we

>> > >may be able to do
>>something
>> > >structured.
>> > >Regards,
>> > >Rick
>> > >Ulrich Mack
>> > >rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Volante Solutions
>> > >18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
>> > >Queensland Australia.
>> > >tel +61 7 3246 7777
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 8:00 AM
>> > >To: 'Mack, Rick'
>> > >Cc: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >Importance: High
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Rick,
>> > >Yes, I agree that it has to be a browsing issue.  I have already
>> > >tried to telnet to port 80, and every other port I set the XML
>> > >Service to listen on.  I can successfully telnet to that port.
>> > >When I try to initiate a session to a published application, the
>> > >system is
>>
>> > >in a TIME_WAIT state when trying to connect to the XML port.  It
>> > >appears that the server is not sending back any information that
>> > >the client is requesting. I already know how the client tries to
>> > >get a published application.  My problem is what is causing this?
>> > >Like I said, there is no firewall at all (software or hardware) in

>> > >between the client and the server. Has anyone experienced this at
>> > >all? Thanks,
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:15 PM
>> > >To: 'lynch00@xxxxxxx'
>> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Hi Chris,
>> > >Connecting directly to the server doesn't require any ICA client
>> > >server
>> >
>> > >browsing. If you're connecting to a published application, the ICA

>> > >client has to find any metaframe server, get redirected to the
>> > >data collector for that zone and then query the it to get
>> > >redirected to a server hosting the published application. The 6.3
>> > >clients use TCP/IP+HTTP by default. So the client needs to be
>> > >directed to one of the servers in the zone, either by defining a
>> > >server address list, or
>>
>> > >by having a DNS entry in your domain (ica) which points to your
>> > >metaframe servers. If you don't have a server list defined on the
>> > >client, or an appropriate DNS entry, nothing happens. Another
>> > >essential component of the published app resolution process is the

>> > >XML service on the Metaframe servers. If this isn't working, or
>> > >you've changed the default port address (80) to something else,
>> > >things won't work. Try "telnet metaframe_server_ip 80, and hit
>> > >return
>>
>> > >a few times, you should get a response. If you've got IIS running
>> > >on the Metaframe servers as well, check the XML service is running

>> > >(net
>> > >start) or if its running on a non-standard port address (defined
at
>> > >metaframe installation time) then the ICA clients will need to be
>> > >changed accordingly. Regards, Rick
>> > >Ulrich Mack
>> > >rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Volante Solutions
>> > >18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
>> > >Queensland Australia.
>> > >tel +61 7 3246 7777
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
>> > >Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2002 5:26 AM
>> > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >Anyone have any suggestions?
>> > >Thanks,
>> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----Original Message-----
>> > >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

>> > >On
>>
>> > >Behalf Of Chris Lynch
>> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:59 PM
>> > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> > >Subject: [THIN] Clients cannot connect to published app.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
>> > >Hash: SHA1
>> > >I have a test server that is running Windows 2000 Server with
>> > >Service
>>
>> > >Pack 2, SRP1SP2, MetaFrame Xpe with SP2/FR2, and I have a problem
>> > >connecting clients to published apps.  Users can make a connection

>> > >to
>>
>> > >the server using RDP or ICA, but only a Custom application
>> > >connection
>>
>> > >TO THE SERVER ONLY.  Even if they specify an application to
>> > >connect to in the Custom ICA Connections, they receive "I/O
>> > >Error."  The ICA client ver is 6.30.1050 Like I said, I can
>> > >connect directly to the server, but not to a Published App. This
>> > >server is in a workgroup, and I do have Local users and groups
>> > >configured.  I remember seeing an article on Citrix talking about
>> > >there are some missing REG keys for the
>> >
>> > >ICA protocol, but I cannot find it anymore.  I don't remember if
>> > >that
>>
>> > >article deals with this issue. I do have the FR set on the server.

>> > >I
>>
>> > >can manage it via the Citrix Management Console.  But my test
>> > >users get
>> >
>> > >the infamous "I/O Error". Also, they are not going through a
>> > >firewall, they are on the same IP subnet, I do have the XML
>> > >Service listenng on the correct port, and the clients are
>> > >configured with the
>>
>> > >correct port for the XML service (which is the default). Anyone
>> > >have any suggestions? Thanks, CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY NRT Incorporated, 27271
>> > >Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691 Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel
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Msg: #79 in digest
From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Weird Outlook issue.
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:23:37 -0700


I have this one user that is having a problem with Outlook 2000 running
on MS TSE 4.0, running MF 1.8.  She makes a connection via the Terminal
Services Client.  Everytime she goes to open an attachment, she gets the
following error message:

"Can't create file: somefilename.doc. Right-click the folder you want to
create the file in, and then clic Peroperties on the shortcut menu to
check your permissions for the folder."

Now, I have had her change the variable for the TEMP and TMP folders
from C:\TEMP to her profile TEMP directory.  I've tried to reset all of
the permissions on her profile.  I even have gone as far as to reset her
roaming profile be deleting it and re-creating it.

Any advice?

Thanks,

CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406


-----Original Message-----
From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Fred Pabia
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:57 PM
To: Thin Forum (E-mail)
Subject: [THIN] Nfuse


I am trying to run an application using nfuse and instead of the
application launching, I get a Remote Application Runtime window coming
up. It displays command line usage and an OK button and when I click on
OK, nothing happens. What am I missing, please. Thanks.

Frederick R. Pabia
Calgary Public Library
616 Macleod Trail SE
Calgary, Alberta T2G 2M2
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Msg: #80 in digest
From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Internet Explorer Settings.
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:26:41 -0700


Thanks.  This one worked.  I didn't want to try what Jim suggested, only
because I remember having issues.

CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
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NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
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-----Original Message-----
From: M [mailto:mathras@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 3:00 PM
To: lynch00@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [THIN] Internet Explorer Settings.


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run

delete the loadwc.exe entry

----- Original Message -----
From: "Chris Lynch" <lynch00@xxxxxxx>
To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 10:53 PM
Subject: [THIN] Internet Explorer Settings.


> Hi all.
>
> I know that I had found a MS KB Article on how to remove the window
> for "Setting Up Personalized Settings" for Windows NT 4 Terminal
> Server Edition.  I forgot what the reg key was to prevent this from
> coming up and eating CPU resources.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
> NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
> Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of Selinger, Stephen
> Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 1:58 PM
> To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [THIN] Auto Created Printers
>
>
> Good Afternoon,
> I have users connecting to published applications via Nfuse.  I have
> setup redirected client printers for only the main client printer.
> Users can not see or use printers until the "connect" them with the
ICA
> Client Printer Configuration (printcfg.exe) tool.  I am wondering if
> this is by design or if I have something configured incorrectly.  When
> users launch the ICA Client printer Configuration tool they see two
> entries for each printer.  One is using the Lexmark driver and the
other
> is using the Citrix Universal Print driver.  I have set the print
> drivers tab in the CMC to use only the universal drive.  I am hoping
> that I am missing something simple.
> Thanks in advance,
> Stephen Selinger
> Special Projects & Innovations Analyst
> Chinook Health Region
> PH: (403) 382-6176
> sselinger@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>
>
>
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Msg: #81 in digest
From: "Alexander Danilychev" <teknica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Nfuse
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:36:34 -0700


Hi Fred,

If I understand you correctly, you have an issue with ICA client
installation similar to other cases when ICA got "updated" to higher version
and never worked again...

Solution - remove all ICA client installs from the client workstation
INCLUDING "web" ICA client and all "Citrix" folders related to ICA client
install. Reinstall ICA (version 6.3 preferably). See if it works.

ALEX


>From: Fred Pabia <FPabia@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: "Thin Forum (E-mail)" <Thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>Subject: [THIN] Nfuse
>Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 15:57:26 -0600
>
>I am trying to run an application using nfuse and instead of the
>application
>launching, I get a Remote Application Runtime window coming up. It displays
>command line usage and an OK button and when I click on OK, nothing
>happens.
>What am I missing, please.
>Thanks.
>
>Frederick R. Pabia
>Calgary Public Library
>616 Macleod Trail SE
>Calgary, Alberta T2G 2M2
>403 260 2744
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Msg: #82 in digest
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 10:49:44 +1200
From: Drazen Vidakovic <drazen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.


They were, but NT4/XP is in different farm anyway and is running in native
mode.
On that site, there is no MF1.8.

I have now
NT4/XP farm one without XML service or published appl at all. No IIS.

WIN2000/XP in farm two with 50 users and XML services and published appl
WIN2000/XP in farm two in building without any user, XML services on, no
published appl defined
         Both servers run CTXXMLSS on port 80 without IIS.

Drazen

At 15:19 15/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>I didn't mean disable the XML service, but rather make sure that both
>servers are listening on the same TCP port for the XML service.  For
>instance, if you have one server with the XMP service configured to
>listen to TCP port 2000, and another server listening on TCP port 80,
>then you WILL get the infamous "I/O Error".  Both servers need to be
>listening on one or the other, not both.  Also, you cannot disable the
>XML port on one of the servers, unless your MF XP server is running in
>Native Mode.  Then either one will not "know" about each other.
>
>CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
>NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
>NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
>Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
>Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 2:55 PM
>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
>
>
>Well, that one did not work. I still have "I/O error" and with NFuse and
>CSG is specifically problematic because users are losing faith in this
>kind of
>scenario.
>
>Any suggestion is wellcome.
>
>Drazen
>
>At 16:33 11/07/2002 +1200, you wrote:
> >Actually, I have one NT4/MFXP on the same LAN doing one specific
> >application. Totally different farm. You recon, that can cause all this
>
> >problems? This server was running for last 2 months.
> >
> >I'll disable XML services on NT4 and I'll see what happens in next
> >couple
> >of days.
> >
> >Drazen
> >
> >At 15:45 10/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >>The onlything I can image why you would get this error intermittantly
> >>is if you do have another MetaFrame sever on the same segment (IP
> >>subnet) that has the XML service installed, and the XML service is
> >>configured on another port number.  Possibly a 1.8 server?  Do you
> >>have the XP farm running in Native mode?
> >>
> >>Also, fire up CMC, right-click on your server, and in the GENERAL tab
> >>see what IP address it has.  Then, run IPCONFIG and see if the IP
> >>addresses match, which they should.
> >>
> >>CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> >>NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
> >>NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
> >>Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
> >>Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2002 3:18 PM
> >>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >>Importance: High
> >>
> >>
> >>Unfortunately, I had settings exactly like in that article. Yesterday,
>
> >>I connected/disconnected 20 times in a row. Click on file on desktop
> >>and cancel out of it. 4 times connect, then 5 times "I/O error" and
> >>then OK again.
> >>
> >>Is there any way of tracing down on W2K what is happening, log files,
> >>anything?
> >>
> >>Drazen
> >>
> >>At 08:41 10/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>Well, I was wrong about the possibiilty of an MS patch breaking
> >>something within IMA or the XML service.  It appears to be a
> >>Datacollector problem (or "by design").  You can read this article
> >>which I just happened to come across right now:
> >>
> >>http://hqextsrvsft01.citrix.com/cgi-bin/webcgi.exe/,/?Session=3914457,
> >>U=
> >>1,ST
> >>=79,N=0005,K=10657,SXI=5,Case=obj(16124)
> >>(text may be wrapped)
> >>
> >>I have adjusted what the article says to do, and I am now able to
> >>connect to the MetaFrame server without problem.  I believe that this
> >>is only caused by the fact that you have only One MF XP server.  I
> >>have another farm that is not on the same physical network, nor in the
>
> >>same company.  It has 3 servers witin a Native farm, and that has no
> >>issues what so ever.
> >>
> >>I am interested to see if Drazen and Danny can use this and resolve
> >>there same problem also.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>
> >>CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> >>NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
> >>NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
> >>Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> >>Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
> >>Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 3:45 PM
> >>To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >>
> >>
> >>Thank you.
> >>Microsoft Patches:
> >>
> >>Q147222
> >>Q272582
> >>Q288165
> >>
> >>Q305713
> >>Q283014
> >>
> >>Last two were put this Saturday, they are just printing related. At
> >>some stage, I was suspecting DNS so I put one more on another machine
> >>just as a backup. Still same problem.
> >>
> >>Drazen
> >>
> >>At 15:31 9/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >> >Thanks.  What Microsoft patches do you have installed?  Just list
> >> >out the Q numbers, and I can research what they are.
> >> >
> >> >The only instance (besides this one) that I have encountered this
> >> >error
> >>
> >> >was when we didn't have our MF 1.8 servers configured with the XML
> >> >service on the same port number.  Once we set all of them to the
> >> >same port number, the error went away.
> >> >
> >> >This one is not the case here.
> >> >
> >> >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> >> >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
> >> >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
> >> >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> >On Behalf Of Drazen Vidakovic
> >> >Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 2:29 PM
> >> >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> >Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >At the moment we have only one W2K/XP server in our group. This one
> >> >was
> >>
> >> >the first, and I am just doing second one.
> >> >
> >> >It is part of a domain, PDC is in different site, but BDC is right
> >> >beside. We do not run Active directory. Server is on W2K SP2 /
> >> >XPaFR1 Also I have Citrix patches.
> >> >XE101W007,XE101W009,XE101W015,XE101W016
> >> >
> >> >Problem we are experiencing is very recent. For four months we had
> >> >only
> >>
> >> >about 20 users on single machine. All users were connecting to
> >> >published desktop. Two weeks ago I
> >> >
> >> >deployed another 30 users
> >> >and then problem started.
> >> >
> >> >Also, what I noticed is that I have less then 30 users logged in, I
> >> >don't have problem, 30 or more can't connect. Also, problem is not
> >> >consistent, one minute user can connect, next minute "I/O Error".
> >> >With this error, NFuse (and CSG) don't work and that is annoying.
> >> >
> >> >When I tried to connect to server to port 80:
> >> >
> >> >HTTP/1.1 400 Bad request
> >> >Server: Citrix Web PN Server
> >> >Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2002 21:22:41 GMT
> >> >Connection: Close
> >> >
> >> >By the way, I am using ICA file to connect, not Citrix Program
> >> >Neighborhood. File is attached.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >[WFClient]
> >> >Version=2
> >> >TcpBrowserAddress=10.89.1.20
> >> >HttpBrowserAddress=wnmf1.printlink.co.nz
> >> >KeyboardLayout=(User Profile)
> >> >KeyboardType=(Default)
> >> >Domain=BSPG
> >> >
> >> >[ApplicationServers]
> >> >WgtnFull=
> >> >
> >> >[WgtnFull]
> >> >Address=WgtnFull
> >> >InitialProgram=#WgtnFull
> >> >ClientAudio=Off
> >> >Compress=On
> >> >ScreenPercent=95
> >> >DesiredColor=2
> >> ># DesiredHRES=4294967295
> >> ># DesiredVRES=4294967295
> >> >TransportDriver=TCP/IP
> >> >WinStationDriver=ICA 3.0
> >> >BrowserProtocol=HTTPonTCP
> >> >EncryptionLevelSession=EncRC5-0
> >> >
> >> >[EncRC5-0]
> >> >DriverNameWin32=PDC0N.DLL
> >> >DriverNameWin16=PDC0W.DLL
> >> >
> >> >[Compress]
> >> >DriverName=PDCOMP.DLL
> >> >DriverNameWin16=PDCOMPW.DLL
> >> >DriverNameWin32=PDCOMPN.DLL
> >> >
> >> >At 08:48 8/07/2002 -0700, you wrote:
> >> > >Thanks for the suggestion.  I did put the server farm into
> >> > >Compatibility mode, and the clients were able to connect.  It
> >> > >appears
> >>
> >> > >that there might be an XML bug with FR2/SP2.
> >> > >
> >> > >Maybe Drazen can test this out and see if his client can connect
> >> > >to the
> >> >
> >> > >published app.
> >> > >
> >> > >Also, Drazen.  What does your farm look like?  How many servers?
> >> > >Are
> >>
> >> > >they part of a domain, or a workgroup?  What Feature Release are
> >> > >you running?  Service Packs?
> >> > >
> >> > >Thanks,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> >> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
> >> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
> >> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > >Sent: Sunday, July 07, 2002 4:57 PM
> >> > >To: 'lynch00@xxxxxxx'
> >> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Hi Chris,
> >> > >Sorry. I sent my answer without reading the rest of your message,
> >> > >hence
> >> >
> >> > >the redundancy. When you telnet to the XML port, I'm assuming that
>
> >> > >you get a response after hitting the return key a few times. That
> >> > >establishes XML is working. A quick and dirty test is to turn on
> >> > >MF 1.8 compatibility mode via the farm properties in the CMC. Set
> >> > >your ICA client up to use TCP/IP (NOT tcpip/http). Published apps
> >> > >"should"
> >>
> >> > >work. This will at least establish that there isn't something
> >> > >really gross happening. Let me know if that works, because then we
>
> >> > >may be able to do
> >>something
> >> > >structured.
> >> > >Regards,
> >> > >Rick
> >> > >Ulrich Mack
> >> > >rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >Volante Solutions
> >> > >18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
> >> > >Queensland Australia.
> >> > >tel +61 7 3246 7777
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
> >> > >Sent: Sunday, 7 July 2002 8:00 AM
> >> > >To: 'Mack, Rick'
> >> > >Cc: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >> > >Importance: High
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Rick,
> >> > >Yes, I agree that it has to be a browsing issue.  I have already
> >> > >tried to telnet to port 80, and every other port I set the XML
> >> > >Service to listen on.  I can successfully telnet to that port.
> >> > >When I try to initiate a session to a published application, the
> >> > >system is
> >>
> >> > >in a TIME_WAIT state when trying to connect to the XML port.  It
> >> > >appears that the server is not sending back any information that
> >> > >the client is requesting. I already know how the client tries to
> >> > >get a published application.  My problem is what is causing this?
> >> > >Like I said, there is no firewall at all (software or hardware) in
>
> >> > >between the client and the server. Has anyone experienced this at
> >> > >all? Thanks,
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> >> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
> >> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
> >> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Mack, Rick [mailto:RMack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> >> > >Sent: Friday, July 05, 2002 3:15 PM
> >> > >To: 'lynch00@xxxxxxx'
> >> > >Subject: RE: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Hi Chris,
> >> > >Connecting directly to the server doesn't require any ICA client
> >> > >server
> >> >
> >> > >browsing. If you're connecting to a published application, the ICA
>
> >> > >client has to find any metaframe server, get redirected to the
> >> > >data collector for that zone and then query the it to get
> >> > >redirected to a server hosting the published application. The 6.3
> >> > >clients use TCP/IP+HTTP by default. So the client needs to be
> >> > >directed to one of the servers in the zone, either by defining a
> >> > >server address list, or
> >>
> >> > >by having a DNS entry in your domain (ica) which points to your
> >> > >metaframe servers. If you don't have a server list defined on the
> >> > >client, or an appropriate DNS entry, nothing happens. Another
> >> > >essential component of the published app resolution process is the
>
> >> > >XML service on the Metaframe servers. If this isn't working, or
> >> > >you've changed the default port address (80) to something else,
> >> > >things won't work. Try "telnet metaframe_server_ip 80, and hit
> >> > >return
> >>
> >> > >a few times, you should get a response. If you've got IIS running
> >> > >on the Metaframe servers as well, check the XML service is running
>
> >> > >(net
> >> > >start) or if its running on a non-standard port address (defined
>at
> >> > >metaframe installation time) then the ICA clients will need to be
> >> > >changed accordingly. Regards, Rick
> >> > >Ulrich Mack
> >> > >rmack@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >Volante Solutions
> >> > >18 Heussler Terrace, Milton 4064
> >> > >Queensland Australia.
> >> > >tel +61 7 3246 7777
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Chris Lynch [mailto:lynch00@xxxxxxx]
> >> > >Sent: Saturday, 6 July 2002 5:26 AM
> >> > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >Subject: [THIN] Re: Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >Anyone have any suggestions?
> >> > >Thanks,
> >> > >CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> >> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
> >> > >NRT Incorporated, 27271 Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691
> >> > >Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel 949.367.3406
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:thin-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>
> >> > >On
> >>
> >> > >Behalf Of Chris Lynch
> >> > >Sent: Wednesday, July 03, 2002 12:59 PM
> >> > >To: thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> > >Subject: [THIN] Clients cannot connect to published app.
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> >> > >Hash: SHA1
> >> > >I have a test server that is running Windows 2000 Server with
> >> > >Service
> >>
> >> > >Pack 2, SRP1SP2, MetaFrame Xpe with SP2/FR2, and I have a problem
> >> > >connecting clients to published apps.  Users can make a connection
>
> >> > >to
> >>
> >> > >the server using RDP or ICA, but only a Custom application
> >> > >connection
> >>
> >> > >TO THE SERVER ONLY.  Even if they specify an application to
> >> > >connect to in the Custom ICA Connections, they receive "I/O
> >> > >Error."  The ICA client ver is 6.30.1050 Like I said, I can
> >> > >connect directly to the server, but not to a Published App. This
> >> > >server is in a workgroup, and I do have Local users and groups
> >> > >configured.  I remember seeing an article on Citrix talking about
> >> > >there are some missing REG keys for the
> >> >
> >> > >ICA protocol, but I cannot find it anymore.  I don't remember if
> >> > >that
> >>
> >> > >article deals with this issue. I do have the FR set on the server.
>
> >> > >I
> >>
> >> > >can manage it via the Citrix Management Console.  But my test
> >> > >users get
> >> >
> >> > >the infamous "I/O Error". Also, they are not going through a
> >> > >firewall, they are on the same IP subnet, I do have the XML
> >> > >Service listenng on the correct port, and the clients are
> >> > >configured with the
> >>
> >> > >correct port for the XML service (which is the default). Anyone
> >> > >have any suggestions? Thanks, CHRIS LYNCH -  MCSE, CCNA, CCA
> >> > >NETWORK ENGINEER - INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY NRT Incorporated, 27271
> >> > >Las Ramblas, Mission Viejo, CA 92691 Chris.lynch@xxxxxxxxxx  Tel
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Msg: #83 in digest
Subject: [THIN] Andreas Westheide ist außer Haus.
From: Andreas.Westheide@xxxxxxxx
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2002 01:00:24 +0200


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